[News] Covid response ‘one of UK’s worst ever public health failures’

[Is it PotG?]

That's completely untrue - as the report points out. The failure of the governement was not to take into account how countries that had experienced pandemics, Sars, for example. South Korea, which has a similar population to the UK (and is more dense) had a very low casualty rate because they had a range of responses to a pandemic which the government swiftly put in place. The UK government paid no attention at all to measures that could have helped - that's what's so damning

Do you believe that the authorities in South Korea might be a little more direct in their enforcement policies than those of the UK?

Civil liberties and all that.

 

[Gwylan]

Do you believe that the authorities in South Korea might be a little more direct in their enforcement policies than those of the UK?

Civil liberties and all that.

But that's exactly what the report says. The government was concerned that the public wouldn't respond favourably so didn't try. When, in fact, when we were locked down, the public responded pretty well.

 

[Is it PotG?]

But that's exactly what the report says. The government was concerned that the public wouldn't respond favourably so didn't try. When, in fact, when we were locked down, the public responded pretty well.

'Pretty well'

Still quite a few refusing jabs even with 1.5 years of knowledge behind us.

Back then, there was no history of this virus. I can imagine the responses.

 

[Bakero]

I agree, in hindsight, a quicker lockdown may have been more prudent.

Enforcement/compliance would have been interesting, our great nation might have been a little reluctant in the early days given that even with what we know now, some still refuse to toe the line.

What's hindsight got to do with it? It was plain to see at the time that action needed to be taken. From here in Spain, observing what was happening in Italy, I wondered why the Spanish government delayed bringing in measures. Following that I could not understand why Boris Johnson, having seen the pandemic grow in Europe, continued to dither. As Spain were locking down, and Italy were a week into lockdown, the UK still had thousands packed into concert venues. An ostrich with a clipboard could've foreseen what was happening.

 

[Is it PotG?]

What's hindsight got to do with it? It was plain to see at the time that action needed to be taken. From here in Spain, observing what was happening in Italy, I wondered why the Spanish government delayed bringing in measures. Following that I could not understand why Boris Johnson, having seen the pandemic grow in Europe, continued to dither. As Spain were locking down, and Italy were a week into lockdown, the UK still had thousands packed into convert venues. An ostrich with a clipboard could've foreseen what was happening.

I'd be interested to know your theory as to why they didn't follow such sage advice.

 

[Gwylan]

Back then, there was no history of this virus. I can imagine the responses.

What are you talking about? We don't have to imagine the responses. We went through months of lockdown where people stayed away from offices and wore masks when they did go out. What the report is saying is that should have been enacted much earlier

 

[Is it PotG?]

What are you talking about? We don't have to imagine the responses. We went through months of lockdown where people stayed away from offices and wore masks when they did go out. What the report is saying is that should have been enacted much earlier

What ARE you talking about?

The report is damming, in hindsight.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Fear ye not, Sir Kneel will be along shortly to put everyone right.

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This response is pathetic. A wide ranging cross party review has found that the government's response to the pandemic was a catastrophic failure, and indeed that some of the strategies repeatedly proposed by the opposition AT THE TIME, would in fact have saved thousands of lives. And the best you can come up with by way of deflecting attention / blame, from the leaders of the catastrophically flawed response, is to post a crappy (and ironically in this instance, entirely false) meme aimed at the leader of the opposition?

I'm genuinely embarrassed for you.

What a ****ing clown.

 

[Is it PotG?]

This response is pathetic.

I'm genuinely embarrassed for you.

What a ****ing clown.

Cheers!

I'm hurt now.

 

[Bakero]

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I'd be interested to know your theory as to why they didn't follow such sage advice.

Libertarian ideals, I guess.

 

[Soton Seagull]

I'm not sure hindsight was required to see that putting untested elderly in to care home was a terrible idea; just a modicum of common sense would've done.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Or indeed the medical experts telling them to lock down ASAP.

Err did you read it ?... the first lockdown delay was due to following scientific advice.

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[A1X]

And it's an inquiry led by Tories. Will this finally put a stop to all the "Boris did the best he could nonsense"?

On the contrary, I am absolutely confident Boris Johnson did the best he could. It's just that his best is actually dire.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

The abiding image for me was of Johnson showboating about having 'shaken hands' with hospital patients. That set the tone for the shambles that followed.

 

[A1X]

To be fair, SAGE have repeatedly come out with awful advice and predictions throughout this as well - many of which proved to be nonsense very quickly. Not many come out of this with much credit (vaccine developers and keyworkers etc excepted, obviously), but ain’t hindsight wonderful

The people on the ground did a stellar job (those mentioned plus the vast majority of the population adhering to the rules and acting sensibly) while those in charge absolutely ****ed it. A story which plays out over and over again throughout British history.

 

[BBassic]

The only way the Tories come out of this with any good will is if they take this report seriously and put systems in place that ensures a better response when the next bug comes to wipe us out, whenever that is and whomever is in power.

 

[Since1982]

I'm not sure hindsight was required to see that putting untested elderly in to care home was a terrible idea; just a modicum of common sense would've done.

And then claiming that a protective ring had been thrown around care homes, utterly contemptible. My father in law survived in a care home because of the brilliant work of the management and staff who were well aware the govt didn’t care one iota about them.

 

[A1X]

Or indeed the medical experts telling them to lock down ASAP.

Dare I say, that evidence given a few months ago by Dominic Cummings that as late as 10 days before lockdown started they had absolutely no idea what to do is starting to sound more and more like it has the ring of truth to it.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Hardly a surprise compounding what we all knew. What is even more shameful, is that going into the autumn/winter the government had the experience of those early failures and still failed to act in timely fashion ushering in many thousands more deaths due to it's deadly dithering.

The vaccine roll out has been a great success, but it does not outweigh the chronic failures that have led to one of the highest death rates in the world. They should never be allowed to forget that or be let off the hook for it.

Lives have always been secondary to economics for this government (ironically this mishandling had also led to a worsening economic situation for us, who knew?) In moment of crisis we have been let down by a shambolic excuse government that doesn't have an empathetic bone in its body.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Dare I say, that evidence given a few months ago by Dominic Cummings that as late as 10 days before lockdown started they had absolutely no idea what to do is starting to sound more and more like it has the ring of truth to it.

I believe that the report references Cummings evidence on quite a few occasions. There's no doubt that he's a **** but it appears he was a **** who had a fair idea of what was happening.