[Albion] Will the ticket exchange open? - yes it will!

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

You're assuming the sharing policy will be confirmed before the renewal period....



It's pretty weird that fans are more worried about empty seats than the business owner.

Fundamentally, I don't think the club wants tickets given away regularly (and therefore devalued). That's the crux.

Fundamentally the tickets have already been paid for tho eh?

 

[sparkie]

now with the increased capacity selling out, to continue to increase income PB only has ST holders or corporate clients to work on. Unfortunately it is the former at the moment although I am sure he will be surprised at number of empty seats and be disappointed more of us have not paid the £20.

I'd be happy to pay the £20. However as I don't have any "friends and family" that aren't already STHs then it seems a waste of money

Ho hum, can't get too stressed anymore about what Barber does with ticketing. I'll be borderline for being kicked out of my ST seat at the end of the season for too much non-attendance anyway, I suspect, which would be a shame but life's too short to shed too many tears over it.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I'd be happy to pay the £20. However as I don't have any "friends and family" that aren't already STHs then it seems a waste of money

Ho hum, can't get to stressed anymore about what Barber does with ticketing. I'll be borderline for being kicked out of my ST seat at the end of the season for too much non-attendance, which would be a shame but life's too short to shed too many tears over it.

The club retain the 'right' to cancel a season ticket for prolonged absence / disuse.

All the while there is NOT an active waiting list of replacement buyers, and only limited numbers of home games are fully selling out, literally NOBODY will be having their ticket cancelled!

 

[timbha]

Good point re timing……..if it’s not, maybe people won’t bother renewing though. Barber’s bean-counters will be all over it, we’ll see. The empty seats have mostly already been paid for……..

I can’t see many STHs giving up their STs because of this (or anything really). Every season there’s an issue that “will stop STHs renewing” yet we always come back. I’m not giving up my ST because of bottle tops, loyalty points, parking, mustard coloured jumpers or the ticket exchange system. I love the club and watching my team too much to give it up. I also have confidence in the people running the club.

 

[dazzer6666]

I can’t see many STHs giving up their STs because of this (or anything really). Every season there’s an issue that “will stop STHs renewing” yet we always come back. I’m not giving up my ST because of bottle tops, loyalty points, parking, mustard coloured jumpers or the ticket exchange system. I love the club and watching my team too much to give it up. I also have confidence in the people running the club.

I wouldn’t either but will be interesting to see……didn’t sell out this season and obviously no waiting list now. Will be plenty of new ones if we finish well up the table too probably.

 

[Dave the hatosaurus]

I'd suggest that anyone, who is genuinely only going to miss one game per season, is making a serious saving on the ST cost against 18 (or even 17) individual match tickets, and if making a big fuss about the new rules, is possibly rather hoping to have their cake and eat it.

Apologies if it came across as a " big whiny fuss " , i was under the false illusion that i was making a balanced reasonable argument . More fool me eh !
So empty seats it is then !

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Fundamentally the tickets have already been paid for tho eh?

Yes, at a reduced season ticket price. There is another (higher) price for day trippers.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Apologies if it came across as a " big whiny fuss " , i was under the false illusion that i was making a balanced reasonable argument . More fool me eh !
So empty seats it is then !

Yeah - sorry about that - it really was not aimed at you at all.

There are some folk on these recent threads getting very whiny / angry / about the issue. You were not one of them, so sorry again that my comment appeared to be directed at you

 

[KeegansHairPiece]

I can’t see many STHs giving up their STs because of this (or anything really). Every season there’s an issue that “will stop STHs renewing” yet we always come back. I’m not giving up my ST because of bottle tops, loyalty points, parking, mustard coloured jumpers or the ticket exchange system. I love the club and watching my team too much to give it up. I also have confidence in the people running the club.

Really...we've just gone from a 5k ST waiting list to a big marketing campaign in the summer because we couldn't sell all available STs due to that list disappearing and a load of people not renewing. I think there are STs available now if people wanted one. Obviously the pandemic is a big reason, but not sure you can say you can't see many people giving up their ST when it's happened this summer.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Fundamentally the tickets have already been paid for tho eh?

At a heavy discount which is only available to people who have committed to purchasing 19 tickets a season.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Really...we've just gone from a 5k ST waiting list to a big marketing campaign in the summer because we couldn't sell all available STs due to that list disappearing and a load of people not renewing. I think there are STs available now if people wanted one. Obviously the pandemic is a big reason, but not sure you can say you can't see many people giving up their ST when it's happened this summer.

Does it really matter if people give up their season tickets? We'll still sell most seats on a match-by-match basis. Season tickets are just a discount offer to people who buy in bulk. Pretty generous offer really, and comes with a lot of other perks such as best seats in the house, priority for away tickets, and ability to pay by direct debit. I can't see many losing sleep if more people prefer to buy tickets on a match-by-match basis than by season.

 

[dazzer6666]

At a heavy discount which is only available to people who have committed to purchasing 19 tickets a season.

How heavy ? My ST averages out at £39 a game……I bought two guest tickets for Everton for £42 each (same price band on the ticketing website)

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

How heavy ? My ST averages out at £39 a game……I bought two guest tickets for Everton for £42 each (same price band on the ticketing website)

Depends on the area, Man City tickets in West Lower / East Upper vary from £58 to £65, so if you're in this kind of area its a big discount. For Newcastle its £42-£46 so closer to parity. I would estimate the total season discount would be in the region of £150 for you compared to buying match-by-match, with say 6 big price games and the rest lower priced.

 

[dazzer6666]

Depends on the area, Man City tickets in West Lower / East Upper vary from £58 to £65, so if you're in this kind of area its a big discount. For Newcastle its £42-£46 so closer to parity. I would estimate the total season discount would be in the region of £150 for you compared to buying match-by-match, with say 6 big price games and the rest lower priced.

£13 differential for Man City (£39 to £52), but amazingly only £7 for the biggest team in the World (must be some sort of pricing mistake)……..so probably a bit less than £150 if we have roughly a third each Cat A, B and C - so miss one of each and (financially) I’d be about quits (which is about what it should be I guess).

 

[timbha]

Really...we've just gone from a 5k ST waiting list to a big marketing campaign in the summer because we couldn't sell all available STs due to that list disappearing and a load of people not renewing. I think there are STs available now if people wanted one. Obviously the pandemic is a big reason, but not sure you can say you can't see many people giving up their ST when it's happened this summer.

Many reasons:
Covid and health fears
Change in financial circumstances
More seats available
People relocating away from the area

All genuine reasons for not renewing and accounting for the vast majority of the less than 10% not renewing. I think we are quite high in the PL ST retention league

Probably a handful (<500) not renewing for “anti Albion/Bloom/Barber reasons.

 

[chaileyjem]

...a load of people not renewing..

The number of people that didn't renew this season was in line with most other seasons at the Amex. More than 9 out of 10 season ticket holders renewed.
They also sold more season tickets this summer than ever before due to the increase in capacity.
https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2122546/92-renewals-on-season-tickets

 

[chaileyjem]

Nope, just hate the seat being empty when I can’t use it. I’d even like to see maybe a ‘keyworker pool’ where we could donate unused STs game by game……

Its not the same but i'm pleased the club have followed through on their commitment at the height of Covid to give away 1000 tickets to NHS workers and keyworkers.
In fact they topped it up to 1500 tickets throughout this season (21/22)
https://www.brightonandhovealbion.c...-league-and-wsl-tickets-for-emergency-workers

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

The number of people that didn't renew this season was in line with most other seasons at the Amex. More than 9 out of 10 season ticket holders renewed.
They also sold more season tickets this summer than ever before due to the increase in capacity.
https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2122546/92-renewals-on-season-tickets

I think it was a very successful renewal period given the circumstances but you need to factor in the classic Barber spin or separating season ticket holders and 1901 members - they lost bigger chunk of those and you can see that from how empty 1901 has looked so far

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[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Can thread be renamed so people know when the exchange is open for City please?

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[chaileyjem]

I think it was a very successful renewal period given the circumstances but you need to factor in the classic Barber spin or separating season ticket holders and 1901 members - they lost bigger chunk of those and you can see that from how empty 1901 has looked so far

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I don't know what the benchmark for renewing a 5 year premium ticket contract but i'd say 80% plus given the circumstances is also pretty high.
As for Barber spin - i think he's just acknowledging pretty fairly after the economic and health turmoil we've been through that actually the demand for Albion tickets (Season or 1901) remains very high or "remarkably high" as he puts it. A fair comment i'd say.