Seagull58
In the Algarve
This is your opportunity to advise Roberto where he's going wrong.
That is not how I meant it to be. There is lots of discussion about RDZ not having a plan B so I'm asking the NSC members their opinion on what it should be. It's not a dig. What is plan B?Unless I am reading it wrong (and by that I'm assuming this is a dig at those who dare criticise RDZ's stubborn flogging of a dead horse), then this is a stupid thread.
He is the one paid millions to come up with the tactics. And if he can't think of anything new himself, he can turn to the army of minnions he brought with him, for some ideas.
What tactics Brighton should be playing with a stupid discussion on a Brighton messageboard?Unless I am reading it wrong (and by that I'm assuming this is a dig at those who dare criticise RDZ's stubborn flogging of a dead horse), then this is a stupid thread.
He is the one paid millions to come up with the tactics. And if he can't think of anything new himself, he can turn to the army of minnions he brought with him, for some ideas.
That's more or less what I think, except imo the wingers have to turn back sometimes and recycle.Play quicker is the closest option to what I think.
It's not a case of ripping up everything we're doing and starting again. But there's so many situations where we take a risk to beat a press, then slow the play down and the opposition have become organised.
The biggest single thing we could do, is to put out our fastest wingers, get the ball out to them and coach them not to turn back Don't recycle at any point. Get to the line ASAP and get it across. Strikers get in there. All this should earn us more free kicks and corners, which we need to completely remodel. Enciso and Barco are taking. It's a bit old school and I accept a risk of having possession turned over, but that's happening anyway with all the tippy tappy
Fair enough.That is not how I meant it to be. There is lots of discussion about RDZ not having a plan B so I'm asking the NSC members their opinion on what it should be. It's not a dig. What is plan B?
Edit; or how should plan A change?
I think we have. We have played out from the back every time (and regularly been dispossessed). Our front men have dropped short to receive the ball (and been fouled continually without punishment). We have moved the ball to the wings and recycled back to the CBs (rinse and repeat).We have definitely played with a clear styleThe bigger and more important question is what is his plan A? We haven’t played with an identity or style for quite a while now.
So, firstly, we need Rice and Caicedo and the job's a good 'un.Out of possession, I think we're playing the wrong players, particularly in Centre Mid.
I actually love the willingness to throw players forward and that the full backs are empowered to join the attack, but I don't see what the plan is for when we get turned over. Gross and Gilmour are never going to provide decent cover. To me, both should be competing for one more attacking spot (where we've seen Lallana and Moder feature).
What we need to play this way and what we don't have is a CM with lungs the size of Ostrich eggs. We need two. A double pivot, both prepared to sit while the full backs bomb on and fill those gaps.
The way I think of it, just imagine we had a Muzza in the team, so that when we're starting to lose control of the back 4 rondo, we could knock it, bypass the press and get ourselves up the pitch. We would be so much harder to play against.The De Zerbi way, like quite a few managers, is very rigid. Players are coached rigorously to move into set positions. The flexibility given to the players is in who you pass too, and when you try and beat the block.
So it's effectively rondos all over the pitch with the onus on one player to make the right decision.
When you're confident and things are going well this works.
Plan B would be to a second setting that is less risky and less reliant on the tight passing. This would be something that the players and/or staff can trigger. Most suitably when its obvious the passing at the back isn't working. There's been countless times recently when the defenders are being pushed further and further back. Panicking. Giving the ball back to the opposition etc.
At this point the onus needs to shift from possession to territory. IE play higher up the pitch.
What we don't have this season is that kind of approach or that out-ball. Largely down to the wingers. But we aren't seeing the Colwill/Dunk through balls, or the kind of goal Steele set up for Mitoma. That's because we are getting pushed really deep and our players lack confidence on the ball.
I don't exactly know how Plan B would look. But at it's crudest it would be playing higher, pushing players out wide, playing more balls forwards. Less possession but likely more advanced territorially.
Essentially it would be a return to a more traditional style football. Probably not for the football hipsters, but likely more effective in our current stink.
Agreed, but without Mitoma and March (or even Estupinan, Hinshelwood) it's impossible to the wide areas (Adingra doesn't have that skill enough IMO).The way I think of it, just imagine we had a Muzza in the team, so that when we're starting to lose control of the back 4 rondo, we could knock it, bypass the press and get ourselves up the pitch. We would be so much harder to play against.
We did something similar when we won at Anfield during lockdown. Stuck Burn on at left wing, whenever the press was too intense, bang it out to the left touchline and win the header.
The the presence of a realistic outball would seriously reduce the effectiveness of an opponents high press.