[Albion] Was Leicester's 1st goal offside? VAR froze picture too early?

[Change at Barnham]

Most VAR talk is about the penalty that wasn't awarded.

However, am I alone in thinking that the picture was frozen a couple of frames too early for the opening Leicester goal?
I suspect it would have been offside if the picture was frozen when the ball was played.
I was watching it on a dodgy stream, so I might be talking rubbish.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Not seen any of it, but I hate goals getting chalked off for very narrow offsides which nobody has really noticed. That said they had one against us at the Amex

 

[Mr deez]

They also didn't show what part Vardy had to play when in an offside position

 

[Seagull58]

Most VAR talk is about the penalty that wasn't awarded.

However, am I alone in thinking that the picture was frozen a couple of frames too early for the opening Leicester goal?
I suspect it would have been offside if the picture was frozen when the ball was played.
I was watching it on a dodgy stream, so I might be talking rubbish.

Vardy not interfering with play as per the Rashford decision in the Manc derby. Obviously, a very subjective decision given the decisions against Mac Ali and Mitoma in previous matches.

 

[kevo]

This is the issue with VAR offsides. So often it's completely arbitary because it depends when the frame was frozen. At least in the World Cup when we had semi-automated offside it was accurate in terms of where the player was at the exact moment the ball was played. Hopefully they'll introduce it here for next season.

 

[Change at Barnham]

 

[Change at Barnham]

I've concluded I'm just a bitter old man. I guess it was close enough not to chalk off.

 

[B-right-on]

He stood right infront of Sanchez when the ball went in.

He was offside but it was deemed that he wasn't interfering with play.

Because you don't notice a player 3 foot away from your face when you are a goalkeeper

 

[smillie's garden]

No opinion on offside, other than it was very tight. Perhaps this has been discussed on match thread, but seemed to me that it might have been a penalty if Albrighton's shot hadn't gone in - looked like blatant handball from Joel?

 

[GT49er]

No opinion on offside, other than it was very tight. Perhaps this has been discussed on match thread, but seemed to me that it might have been a penalty if Albrighton's shot hadn't gone in - looked like blatant handball from Joel?

Yes, it did rather look like that ..........................

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I’m happy leaving it to the officials. VAR hasn’t stopped the arguments.

 

[Bodian]

No opinion on offside, other than it was very tight. Perhaps this has been discussed on match thread, but seemed to me that it might have been a penalty if Albrighton's shot hadn't gone in - looked like blatant handball from Joel?

Can you imagine the fun Mason would have on VAR?

1. Was the original pass offside - no, got to 2
2. Was Vardy offside - yes, go to 3
3. Was Vardy interfering with play - no, go to 4
4. Did Dunk handle it, no - go to 5
5. Did Veltman handle it, probably...

We'd still be here whilst they were deciding all of that!

 

[Silverhatch]

VAR IS SHITE

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Not seen any of it, but I hate goals getting chalked off for very narrow offsides which nobody has really noticed. That said they had one against us at the Amex

Couldn’t agree more.

Hate VAR.

 

[Comrade Sam]

Not a fan of Var, but watching the FA cup motd it was shocking how many goals were really offside but allowed.

 

[SeagullsoverLondon]

This is the issue with VAR offsides. So often it's completely arbitary because it depends when the frame was frozen. At least in the World Cup when we had semi-automated offside it was accurate in terms of where the player was at the exact moment the ball was played. Hopefully they'll introduce it here for next season.

Yes, the people who say at least with offside is that you can be objective about it are wrong, as it starts with an old man pressing a button to "estimate" when the ball was kicked. Inevitably this means that if the play is stopped even a fraction of a second later, the decision whether someone is offside by a bootlace or not could be very different.
Therefore I think they need to make an allowance and stop chalking off the very tight goals. I am in favour of giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking side. Therefore, I have no complaints about that aspect of the offside.

No opinion on offside, other than it was very tight. Perhaps this has been discussed on match thread, but seemed to me that it might have been a penalty if Albrighton's shot hadn't gone in - looked like blatant handball from Joel?

I suspect VAR would have definitely got round to awarding a penalty to them. It looked fairly obvious on the replay, although of course if had been in the second half it wouldn't have been seen, because by all accounts Lee Mason was having his afternoon nap, hence why he missed Welly's blatant penalty.

 

[jessiejames]

Not a fan of Var, but watching the FA cup motd it was shocking how many goals were really offside but allowed.

And this is why we had pages in forums discussing this, even radio and tv talking a bout how a goal shod have been diss allowed, thank god we gave VAR to put an end to that.

Oh wait.

 

[kevo]

No opinion on offside, other than it was very tight. Perhaps this has been discussed on match thread, but seemed to me that it might have been a penalty if Albrighton's shot hadn't gone in - looked like blatant handball from Joel?

I think Veltman may have been sent off if that had been given, so we were fortunate in a way.

 

[CaptainDaveUK]

Players running in opposite directions, let’s say one at 10km/hour the other at 20km/hour, so 30km/hour combined. That’s 30,000 metres per hour, which is 30,000 metres every 3,600 seconds. Live sport is broadcast at 30 frames a second. So we’re talking about combined speeds 30,000 metre every 108,000 frames. This works out at .2777 metres per frame! Let’s call that 25cm difference between one frame and the next of players are running in opposite directions. When you freeze the frame makes all the difference!

 

[birthofanorange]

Players running in opposite directions, let’s say one at 10km/hour the other at 20km/hour, so 30km/hour combined. That’s 30,000 metres per hour, which is 30,000 metres every 3,600 seconds. Live sport is broadcast at 30 frames a second. So we’re talking about combined speeds 30,000 metre every 108,000 frames. This works out at .2777 metres per frame! Let’s call that 25cm difference between one frame and the next of players are running in opposite directions. When you freeze the frame makes all the difference!

Is the answer 42?