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[Football] Use this thread to slag Southgate off before and after the match tonight
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Mancgull
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Another, competent, manager would get a lot more out of this squad.
Get a decent back line in for starters as the attackers and midfielders have enough about them.
Need the right balance too. Far too defensive a line up.
Get a decent back line in for starters as the attackers and midfielders have enough about them.
Need the right balance too. Far too defensive a line up.
I thought we played quite well. Disappointed Tony didn't get on. We have some decent players and were set up to win.
3-2 win would have meant that the team would have gone into the World Cup with a bunch of confidence, because the narrative and emotions would have been a lot different.
The 3-3 goal... not back to rock bottom maybe as you actually scored a few, but that goal could turn out very important in a not so positive way.
The 3-3 goal... not back to rock bottom maybe as you actually scored a few, but that goal could turn out very important in a not so positive way.
Farehamseagull
Solly March Fan Club
Yes he does. But he does it really earnestly!
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Totally forgot about him tbf - like TAA what was the fecking point of calling him up and then not given him any minutes across two friendlies?
Mr Banana
Tedious chump
The squad have character and Bellingham is great.
The team selection killed an atmosphere that was already flat, encapsulated by the PA turning down the chorus to Three Lions and no-one singing it.
Southgate picked a team that would teach him zilch. Last chance to try out players wasted. If there is a plan b, he doesn’t believe in it.
The team selection killed an atmosphere that was already flat, encapsulated by the PA turning down the chorus to Three Lions and no-one singing it.
Southgate picked a team that would teach him zilch. Last chance to try out players wasted. If there is a plan b, he doesn’t believe in it.
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
Let’s be fair here, he can’t very well have a plan B, if he hasn’t even got a plan A
hart's shirt
Well-known member
That's my feelings too. I've said enough about Southgate already, so no need to rehash it again.
Like it or not, he's got the gig for the tournament, so he's got my support if not exactly my full confidence.
Our best option is to try and maximize our riches and Saka's pace in attacking midfield and go for it, like we did in the last 20.
It doesn't have to be gung-ho, cavalier stuff, but anything's got to be better than slow, ineffective passing.
It's going to go against Southgate's naturally defensive outlook, but something has to change.
In the last 20 minutes, we looked dangerous going forward, but the defence didn't look assured throughout the game.
Over the 6 Nations games, 10 goals conceded and only 1 clean sheet isn't going to win us the World Cup on defence alone.
He's got the players to go deep in the tournament, but does Southgate have the flexibility of tactics? Time will tell.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Its already told. He doesn't.
Barham's tash
Well-known member
Can’t be bothered to trawl through all five pages as am sure it’s been said but can you imagine what Potter could have got out of this squad? Even if you pick the same lame squad as Southgate Potter would have them purring; people popping up all over the place unexpectedly. We would have scared the shit out of so many teams and crucially with tournament football we would have been in EVERY game.
Southgate is to football management what stippling, wall papering and painting - diy guide is to the documentary world. A ****ing waste of time. The performances we’ve got out of this team with him at the helm have been in spite of him not because of him.
Southgate is to football management what stippling, wall papering and painting - diy guide is to the documentary world. A ****ing waste of time. The performances we’ve got out of this team with him at the helm have been in spite of him not because of him.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
You might get to see it in the New Year. Fingers crossed.
Super Perry Digweed
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- Sep 9, 2010
- 45
I think Potter would also work wonders for England.
He took a while to instill his philosophies with us and it's been said he wouldn't get the luxury of time, due to the infrequency of England matches and training camps but 2 things to consider:
1. He's an intelligent guy. He'd certainly look to adapt his approach, knowing his time with the group is limited. He'd look to the core values of his philosophies and identify the quick wins to get the ball rolling, so to speak. I doubt he would take the same approach as he does when working day in day out at club level. Start with the basics, perhaps his plan A and plan B, leaving aside plans C to Z to begin with.
2. The respective starting points for us and England aren't comparable. Yes it took a few years for our squad to develop into the slick machine we are now, but he would be working with players who are arguably of a higher calibre to begin with. Their starting point is surely more advanced than ours was a few years back by virtue of them all being world class elite players, so I would hope they'd take things on board quicker and need less time to understand and implement GPs training.
Of course it's a moot point with GP having just moved to Chelsea on a long contract.
Or is it?
What if there's a way for him to be involved in the England set up without having to leave Chelsea? I don't know enough about the structure within the FA, but could he be given responsibility to put together a coaching team and scouting team to filter down his philosophies, and then take charge of matches? Perhaps this is pie in the sky. It's not a game of "Football Manager' after all. But could it work? I just read an article the other day that Frank Lampard or Stevie G could be next in line after Southgate and I'm worried for the future of English football!
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Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Super Perry Digweed
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- Sep 9, 2010
- 45
I'd find that quite amusing if GP scooted off for the England job leaving Chelsea in the lurch.
Would Boehly then come calling for RDZ though? ;-)
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Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
He can go after that bloke in Scandinavia we were supposedly after.
sydney
tinky ****in winky
i don't think a manager like potter goes well for England and how does he throw away 200k a week.
Normal Rob
Well-known member
throw away 7 out of the first 10 games and he doesn't have to. In fact he gains 4.8 years to follow other ventures.
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HellBilly
what would be more amusing is Roberts and Bruno out of a job very quickly