Tory plan to destroy the Beeb...

[chaileyjem]

You don't by any chance...work for the BBC? A passionate defence.

Yes . Full transparency. I do work for the BBC. Its on my about page.

 

[Mowgli37]

£180/year doesn't sound so great if you're not a Cash in the Attic fan.

So to justify your opposition to paying the license fee at it's current rate you have not only used an erroneous figure but as part of your argument, mentioned a show that the BBC stopped making three years ago

 

[pb21]

None of whom has a choice whether to donate - or spend their subscription elsewhere.

Of course you have a choice, if you don't like it don't pay it, simple! It only applies if you are watching or recording live TV anyway.

 

[nicko31]

As someone who understands and works closely alongside the BBC, I can say, quite categorically, it is the most overblown, self-indulgent, exclusive club in the world. Ironic, for an institution often touted as a socialist, leftie machine.The lack of accountability is a disgrace. And it's all you guys (me included) paying the membership fees. The BBC, as an institution, can exist only by the generosity (enforced) of its patrons. Without this obscene and wholly undemocratic 'tax', the BBC would disintegrate and die. In a world of fairies and happy endings, this would be a tragedy. But what about the billion other companies and institutions which no longer exist in the real world? Should we also be dipping in our pockets to save them too? Of course not. Axe the BBC, save the money and make its club members find 'real' jobs.

How long have you been working with News Corp?

 

[Codner's Wallop]

Of course you have a choice, if you don't like it don't pay it, simple! It only applies if you are watching or recording live TV anyway.

Have no idea what you are talking about. Non-payment of the BBC licence fee is a criminal offence. In fact, 3,000 PEOPLE PER WEEK are fined by magistrates courts all over the country for non-payment of the licence fee.

Everyone under the age of 75 with a television HAS to pay, regardless of whether they watch BBC programmes.

 

[Codner's Wallop]

Yes . Full transparency. I do work for the BBC. Its on my about page.

Wasn't suggesting you were anything but transparent. Didn't realise you worked for the BBC - I never read posters' profiles.

 

[chaileyjem]

Everyone under the age of 75 with a television HAS to pay, regardless of whether they watch BBC programmes.

True. But its every household not per person. Also currently if you only watch programmes on demand (using iPlayer for example) :ie after they are broadcast and not live then you don't need a tv licence.

 

[Codner's Wallop]

True. But its every household not per person. Also currently if you only watch programmes on demand (using iPlayer for example) :ie after they are broadcast and not live then you don't need a tv licence.

Completely pointless. You can watch iPlayer for free but if you have a TV to watch other channels, you still have to pay the BBC licence.

 

[pb21]

Have no idea what you are talking about. Non-payment of the BBC licence fee is a criminal offence. In fact, 3,000 PEOPLE PER WEEK are fined by magistrates courts all over the country for non-payment of the licence fee.

Everyone under the age of 75 with a television HAS to pay, regardless of whether they watch BBC programmes.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...l-way-to-avoid-paying-the-TV-licence-fee.html

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's great watching someone get on their high horse, then falling at fence after fence...

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

It's great watching someone get on their high horse, then falling at fence after fence...

I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down
But I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down

I get knocked down
(We'll be singing)
But I get up again
You're never going to keep me down
(When we're winning)
I get knocked down
(We'll be singing)
But I get up again
You're never going to keep me down
(Ooh, ooh, ooh)

 

[yxee]

So to justify your opposition to paying the license fee at it's current rate you have not only used an erroneous figure but as part of your argument, mentioned a show that the BBC stopped making three years ago

The erroneous figure was me calculating someone's quoted 50p daily rate by 365.

Red herrings.

Does the £40 difference make any difference to my argument?

Does the cancellation of a show?

 

[yxee]

Completely pointless. You can watch iPlayer for free but if you have a TV to watch other channels, you still have to pay the BBC licence.

That.

It is archaic.

 

[drew]

Most people (58%) think the BBC represents value for money and that figure is rising year on year. If you use BBC radio, online and tv then that figure increases to 71% who think the BBC is "good value for money."
via http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/annualreport/pdf/2013-14/bbc_annualreport_201314.pdf

Cheers.

 

[Codner's Wallop]

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...l-way-to-avoid-paying-the-TV-licence-fee.html

I don't think you really deserve to be so smug. Why should people HAVE to find loopholes in the first place? Clearly the 3,000 people in court every week aren't as smart as you. The fee is undemocratic and is essentially a tax. Now this bit is VERY easy to understand.

 

[cunning fergus]

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...l-way-to-avoid-paying-the-TV-licence-fee.html

It’s a delicious irony that those advocating the continuation of the current licence fee would also tend to consider themselves liberal and progressive types, yet they support a policy of criminalising those who don’t or cant pay………………which would overwhelmingly include the poor. The very people they would pretend they want to protect.

De-criminalising non-payment of the licence fee and allowing the public to choose whether they want BBC services are progressive and liberal steps, which should be supported by liberal and progressive minds.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc...inalising-licence-fee-dodgers-until-2017.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23792388

I mean, the bloody Tories get democratically elected and then start and giving the electorate an adult choice as to whether we can reduce our monthly expenditure to deal with the “cost of living crisis” what an f****** outrage!!!

You couldnt make it up.

 

[Igzilla]

If the licence fee is scrapped, presumably the BBC will have to start taking advertising? If that's the case, then it will be a very rare occurrence that the Igzilla household will ever watch much TV at the time it's due on, we will just rely on Catch Up and pausing live TV so we can skip the adverts.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Love the BBC. As important as continued funding of our libraries, art galleries, public buildings.

Massively important public service whose output goes far beyond what any broadcaster would do for commercial reasons.

Free to air services only exist because of the BBC. Lose that and people will be paying more than the license fee to watch a subscription service.

 

[Blackadder]

If the licence fee is scrapped, presumably the BBC will have to start taking advertising? If that's the case, then it will be a very rare occurrence that the Igzilla household will ever watch much TV at the time it's due on, we will just rely on Catch Up and pausing live TV so we can skip the adverts.

Yep, I am happy to pay the BBC license fee for quality programs and no adverts. I also pay more in subscriptions to SKY and still get adverts! How does that work?

 

[Guy Fawkes]

50p per HOUSEHOLD. Ridiculously good value.

(This isn't a dig at the BBC or in anyway an argument to get rid of it but
How much does ITV and Channel 4 cost per household as a fair comparison?

Paying a license fee is like paying a suscription for Sky but all households with a TV are forced to subscribe (I know some households get their license for free) - also what does the basic Sky package cost per day? (I don't have it and have no interest in becoming a Sky customer but just looking for the comparison figures again)