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[Politics] The Spider and the Fly II - Liz v Starmer



crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,536
Lyme Regis
12pm kick off for the sequel.

Should be compulsive viewing.

:goal:
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,898
It's going to be cruel and heartbreaking...liz will have to come out fighting to get the Tory faithful on board but she's going to have to screech like crazy and deflect the actual questions.....not confident she has the ability to go toe to toe with Starmer..
 




crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,536
Lyme Regis
1-0 Liz

:lolol:
 


Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
12,924
Central Borneo / the Lizard
She did alright. So did Starmer ' but people expect that from him and less from her. 'Nothing new about a Labour leader who wants to raise taxes' was a very good retort to Starmers last question.

All bollocks though. Labour want to tax and spend, fine. Seems Truss wants to spend but not tax, just borrow. She knows that it will be a future Labour gov that will have to deal with the debt, knowing the Tories can criticise the inevitable taxes needed to pay it, thus giving them a future route back into power. And so the cycle will continue.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,316
missed the headliner, rest of it was competent but dull. which is a bit refreshing.
 








crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,536
Lyme Regis
She did alright. So did Starmer ' but people expect that from him and less from her. 'Nothing new about a Labour leader who wants to raise taxes' was a very good retort to Starmers last question.

All bollocks though. Labour want to tax and spend, fine. Seems Truss wants to spend but not tax, just borrow. She knows that it will be a future Labour gov that will have to deal with the debt, knowing the Tories can criticise the inevitable taxes needed to pay it, thus giving them a future route back into power. And so the cycle will continue.

I'm no great Liz dfan but thought she won comfortably, Starmer knows he's got a tougher nut after that today, interesting what his tactics will be for the rematch next Wednesday.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
With no election imminent, Starmer will take some time to size up his new opponent, while Truss will arguably never be in a position as well prepared or as strong as she was in today.
 






A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
17,883
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Are you a spin doctor by any chance?

Just my reading of it. Truss right now will enjoy the support of basically every Tory MP as the new winner of the election. But as soon as she starts making mistakes (which, lets be honest, will happen quite quickly) then that support will ebb. The energy announcement will be a big flash point, today she could just walk out and shout "Tax cuts!" and get a cheer from her side.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,979
Living In a Box
Mays question was a classic
 


pb21

Well-known member
Apr 23, 2010
6,330
Are you a spin doctor by any chance?

They have a point. In addition, Truss will have been thinking about facing Starmer since Starmer was elected as the Labour leader, 2.5 years ago. Starmer, on the other hand, over the past few weeks, maybe even couple of days. Give it time.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,399
Sussex by the Sea
They have a point. In addition, Truss will have been thinking about facing Starmer since Starmer was elected as the Labour leader, 2.5 years ago. Starmer, on the other hand, over the past few weeks, maybe even couple of days. Give it time.

Maybe

I'll plump for overestimating Sir Bland.
 


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