The Premiership to blame?

[London Calling]

You can't blame the foreign talent that is imported, but it clealy prevets the majority of our young players to develop and play at a top level.

Walcott should be playing week in and out not sidelined.

Whilst this team may had been Egland's top 20 or so, there is little talent behind them.

Look at Spain they can Take Torres off for a bad game and replace him with an equal, by rights Rooney should not had started in any game, with his poor form, but played literally all the time and replaced with: Crouch ffs.

The quota system of a minimum numbers of English players can only be the way forward.

Best preparation for the World Cup must be the Champions League, but don't we have on of the lowest number of players actually playing in each, despite normally fielding the equal highest amount of teams.

 

[Acker79]

The quota system of a minimum numbers of English players can only be the way forward.

It may be the best for international football, but it won't happen. FIFA dropped their plans when they found it would be illegal.

 

[London Calling]

It may be the best for international football, but it won't happen. FIFA dropped their plans when they found it would be illegal.

But don't Italy and Germany have it?

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

But don't Italy and Germany have it?

No but there is generally a gentlemans agreement that they dont overload with foreigners....apart from Inter.

Cant see any team in the prem not wanting to play loads of carlos kickaballs

 

[Guy Fawkes]

How is this differnet from Spain, Germany, Italy, Germany, Holland, Brazil and Argentina?

Our players play like they have never met because they are so tactically unaware. Ozil spent all match finding space and none of our players took responsibility for picking him up, either momentarily or continually (ie. man marking him). Gerrard and Rooney never found space for the same reasons they just don't understand the game.

What a load of crap - we lost so we must be clueless about how to play the game, do me a favour.

Ozil had space because we were pushing forward for a goal, and that left extra space for him. Had we been ahead and they were looking for the goal, i'd expect you'd find our players had space to operate in.

They seem tactically aware enough to play for some of the best clubs in our country and in Europe, if they were as bad as you make out, they wouldn't be playing teams anywhere near as good.

 

[London Calling]

FIFA set to push forward with foreign quota plan as report insists it's not against EU law
By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 10:11 PM on 26th February 2009
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Plans to limit the number of foreign players in clubs do not breach European law, a study has found.
FIFA's so-called '6+5' rule has already been overwhelmingly approved by 155 of the organisation's member nations, but dismissed as illegal by the European Commission and most EU governments because they say it amounts to discrimination at work and a restriction on the free movement of workers.
Now the Institute for European Affairs (INEA) - commissioned by FIFA to study the issue - claim the idea of restricting foreign players at kick-off in league games does not fall foul of EU rules on free movement of


Read more: FIFA to push on with foreign quota plan as report insists it's not against EU law | Mail Online

 

[Acker79]

FIFA set to push forward with foreign quota plan as report insists it's not against EU law
By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 10:11 PM on 26th February 2009

Read more: FIFA to push on with foreign quota plan as report insists it's not against EU law | Mail Online

Well, they kept that quiet. On Thursday, while the eyes of the world were focused on South Africa, FIFA quietly announced that the 6 + 5 ruling on quotas of home-grown players was to be scrapped.

The European Union does not allow the make-up of a workforce to be governed by nationality and contrary to the presumption of Sepp Blatter, the FIFA president, football is not a special case. It never was.

Blatter (above right) has been feted like an emperor for so long he thought his will could over-ride established international labour laws. The great shame is being denied the sight of his face when it was patiently explained he was not leader of the free world or the United Nations, but just a Swiss lawyer in charge of the football.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1286359/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Cold-logic-dictates-Capello-stick-Robert-Green.html#ixzz0s5YxEup6 << Last updated at 12:16 AM on 15th June 2010

 

[Pantani]

What a load of crap - we lost so we must be clueless about how to play the game, do me a favour.

Ozil had space because we were pushing forward for a goal, and that left extra space for him. Had we been ahead and they were looking for the goal, i'd expect you'd find our players had space to operate in.

They seem tactically aware enough to play for some of the best clubs in our country and in Europe, if they were as bad as you make out, they wouldn't be playing teams anywhere near as good.

Ozil was finding space before we were chasing the game, not just once we were behind. When our players play for the clubs they are surrounded by disciplined foreign players and are drilled day in day out how to play their positions. In international football there is not the same time to build the same instinctive understanding that there is in club football, therefore a greater tactical awareness is needed. Do you think Capello asked England to bomb forward recklessly with 25 minutes to go? You know the answer is no. You can only summise that Englands players lacked the intelligence to be patient and not expose themselves in the amateur fashion that they did in the second half.

 

[beorhthelm]

Premier League (and lower league) fans may play a part, they demand fast paced attacking football.

They boo teams or players for playing the ball backwards and retaining possession rather than going forward, is it then a surprise when we struggle to keep the ball when playing at international level.

We over-committed going forward, (but we were chasing the game), and got caught on the counter against the Germans rather than being patient, trying to be solid at the back and trying to get a goal back in the 45 minutes we had left to us.

this.

but the whole premise of the thread is flawed, focusing on '90 performance and forgetting the poor performances in the 70's and 80's before '86. we're just not very good at international football.

but look on the positive side, we dont have to watch some of the shit served up in other countries which would bore you to watch Rugby.

 

[seagullsoverlincoln]

Im not sure the prems to blame per se, but its obvious that with only 40% of
englishmen in the average starting line up,(less in the better teams) that has to have an effect on the national team