The official not really bothered about the Rugby World Cup Thread

[nwgull]

Cheers Pogue,

The main difference is that whilst there are a set of core skills which apply across a rugby team there are a number of specialist roles/positions which are generally very difficult for another player to backfill.

A particular player might be the lead in calling and receiving the lineout throws, or the main kicker. There's also the difference in size, so if you lose a forward then it'll be harder to cover that particular area as someone else will have to move up.

Then there's the way the game is played. In football you defend a goal, in rugby it's an entire end. Losing one player means that there will either be (i) wider spaces between the team down to 14 men if they spread out or (b) an overlap if they try and defend narrow.

Though no football team would like to play with 10 men for 10 mins they are far more able, by the nature of the game itself, to not concede or make it harder for the opposition to score. In rugby the chances are you will concede points.

I think your 3rd point is the most pertinent. In football, a much weaker team can be battered for 90 mins and still come away with a draw or a sometimes even a win from a single flukey goal. In rugby the dominant team will inevitably accumulate points, which is why Japan beating SA over 80 minutes on Saturday was incredible.

During commentary of England v Wales a couple of years ago, Brian Moore quoted that the average number of points conceded in the 10 mins that a team is down to 14 men: I think that it was as many as 8!

 

[Simster]

Exactly what should rugby learn from football

Have a look at my post replying to him. There is plenty that rugby can learn from football, particularly the bits about taking the game to the less privileged and to countries outside it's traditional heartlands.

 

[scamander]

I think your 3rd point is the most pertinent. In football, a much weaker team can be battered for 90 mins and still come away with a draw or a sometimes even a win from a single flukey goal. In rugby the dominant team will inevitably accumulate points, which is why Japan beating SA over 80 minutes on Saturday was incredible.

During commentary of England v Wales a couple of years ago, Brian Moore quoted that the average number of points conceded in the 10 mins that a team is down to 14 men: I think that it was as many as 8!

I think the average is 7, but it can really differ depending on what level the game is at (check this article).

In football you rarely see a stat for 'territory', rugby is about exploiting space by committing an opposition player or finding a gap. Much easier to do when you have one more player.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Exactly what should rugby learn from football

Wrong person to ask, I'm not saying either game should learn from the other, it was Simster making the point.

 

[Guinness Boy]

You can always learn from all sorts of things. As a person I'm constantly trying to improve my knowledge, my education and find better ways of doing things. I would expect most people are.

Does that mean that we should change football to be more like rugby (and I say this as someone who likes Union, loathes League and has been watching the World Cup)? Hell no.

 

[mr sheen]

Have a look at my post replying to him. There is plenty that rugby can learn from football, particularly the bits about taking the game to the less privileged and to countries outside it's traditional heartlands.

I think rugby is learning from football, around professionalism - remember, it's not been fully and officially professional that long, and everything that goes with that - commercialism , giving the top clubs fan bases equivalent to those in football etc will take years to happen.

 

[Buzzer]

Exactly what should rugby learn from football

What a proper shaped ball looks like.

 

[BN9 BHA]

What a proper shaped ball looks like.

Top answer.

 

[8ace]

Is this shite finished yet

 

[Hillian1]

Is this shite finished yet

For England, probably.

 

[Bladders]

Is this shite finished yet

I've not seen a single second of it, highlights included, so have no idea if it's just started , half way through or if the final had been played yet [emoji106]

 

[lawros left foot]

I think this thread is going to get a whole lot longer after tonight

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I imagine a lot of Tarquins, Jeremys, Jemimas and Arabellas are a tad miffed at the current score

 

[8ace]

 

[dazzer6666]

Thread closed

 

[Bry Nylon]

I've been watching Casualty on BBC1 but I assume that England lost?

Well, thank fvck for that. Hopefully everybody will stop banging on about 'wugger' now

 

[BN9 BHA]

Welcome back plastic rugby fans, you know football is the better game

 

[gregbrighton]

I agree. Our club football is what matters

 

[swindonseagull]

Thank goodness they are out.

Maybe all the plastic rugby fans can piss off back to where they came from.
Cant stand the game, Glad to see all the fat blokes waddle off as losers.

 

[Simster]

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