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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Oh dear.

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Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
39,129
West Sussex
  • 17:49 Sharon Hodgson resigns as Labour’s Shadow Minister for Children
  • 17:16 Shadow Police minister Jack Dromey next to go.

#b@stards
 










Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Massive demonstration in support of Corbyn going on whilst inside Parliament that idiot Johnson has a go at Corbyn about the Remain campaign, remind me who led it ?

I don't know if you're aware but it's a rally organised by the SWP. They're a completely different political party, they don't even believe in democratic socialism, it's a self-proclaimed Trotskyite political party. Tell me again who should leave the Labour Party?
 


Titanic

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Jul 5, 2003
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West Sussex
Just to summarise... this is the list of Labour resignations over the last two days:

Yesterday:

  • 21:19 Shadow Leader of the House Chris Bryant resigns.
  • 19:08 Karl Turner, Shadow Attorney General, is next to quit.
  • 17:46 Blairite Shadow Justice Secretary Charlie Falconer resigns.
  • 17:20 Tom Watson says he is “deeply disappointed” by Hilary Benn’s sacking and “equally saddened” by resignations.
  • 16:51 Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary Vernon Coaker quits.
  • 13:44 Close McDonnell ally, Shadow Chief Secretary Seema Malhotra resigns.
  • 13:09 Shadow Environment Secretary Kerry McCarthy goes too.
  • 12:58 Andy Burnham says he WON’T resign.
  • 12:56 Shadow Education Secretary Lucy Powell resigns.
  • 12:55 Confirmed Lilian Greenwood quits.
  • 12:40 Len McCluskey says it’s a “pathetic and futile coup” against Corbyn. Says Tom Watson will back Jez.
  • 12:30 Lucy Powell has told MPs she’s resigning from shadow cabinet later this afternoon.
  • 11:38 Confirmed Ian Murray has gone. He’s Labour’s only Scottish MP.
  • 11:07 Gloria De Piero quits.
  • 09:52: Shadow Scotland Secretary Ian Murray set to quit, along with Shadow Transport Secretary Lilian Greenwood.
  • 08:15 Corbyn says he won’t resign.
  • 08:00 Shadow Health Secretary Heidi Alexander resigns.
  • 01:00 Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn sacked in the early hours. He had been about to resign.
Today:

  • 17:54 Melanie Onn, Shadow Deputy Leader of House, has resigned
  • 17:49 Sharon Hodgson resigns as Labour’s Shadow Minister for Children
  • 17:16 Shadow Police minister Jack Dromey next to go.
  • 15:26 Sir Keir Starmer quits as Shadow Home Office minister.
  • 14:21 Shadow Culture minister Thangam Debbonaire goes.
  • 14:18 Luciana Berger goes too.
  • 13:02 Shadow Women’s minister Kate Green quits.
  • 12:37 Maria Eagle quits as Shadow Culture Secretary.
  • 12:16 Shadow Welsh Secretary Nia Griffith quits along with junior Susan Jones.
  • 12:19 Shadow Housing Secretary John Healey also gone.
  • 12:17 Shadow Business Secretary Angela Eagle resigns.
  • 11:52 Housing PPS Matthew Pennycock also goes.
  • 11:51 Lisa Nandy and Owen Smith resign.
  • 11:40 Jenny Chapman quits Education team, Colleen Fletcher quits Defra.
  • 09:58 Shadow Minister for the Natural Environment Alex Cunningham resigns.
  • 09:20 Angela Smith, Leader of Labour in the Lords, and Labour’s Lords Chief Whip Steve Bassam both quit attending shadow cabinet meetings.
  • 09:02 Ruth Smeeth resigns as a PPS to the NI team.
  • 08:45 Education PPS Jess Phillips resigns.
  • 08:37 Shadow ministers Steve Reed and Yvonne Fovargue have gone.
  • 08:31 Wayne David resigns as Shadow Europe Minister.
  • 08:21 Justice PPS Chris Matheson quits.
  • 08:06 Stephen Kinnock has resigned as Angela Eagle’s PPS.
  • 07:53 Neil Coyle, who nominated Corbyn, has resigned as PPS to Bryant.
  • 07:52 Diana Johnson resigns as Shadow Foreign Office Minister.
  • 07:49 Toby Perkins resigns as Shadow Armed Forces Minister.
  • 07:48 Anna Turley resigns as Shadow Minister for Civil Society.

Will we get the inevitable one tomorrow?
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
50,395
Faversham
I don't know if you're aware but it's a rally organised by the SWP. They're a completely different political party, they don't even believe in democratic socialism, it's a self-proclaimed Trotskyite political party. Tell me again who should leave the Labour Party?

Indeed. The SWP hijack every protest with their soppy banners. They are a parasite on the labour party.

Unfortunately I suspect that Corbyn regards such 'support' as being part of the 'broad church'. Its not part of my network, any more than the BNP are part of your average conservative type's (not that I'm even a labour member, although I may rejoin, like one of my work colleagues of the soft left did today, in the hope of having a hand in getting Corbyn out - not because Corbyn is Doctor Evil, merely a hopeless leader at a time when Labour needs a good leader). Apologies for yet another long sentence.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,237
Just far enough away from LDC
Massive demonstration in support of Corbyn going on whilst inside Parliament that idiot Johnson has a go at Corbyn about the Remain campaign, remind me who led it ?

As corbyn is now finding out, you can't effectively lead anything unless you have the backing of your big hitters. If it's true that nobody of the leaders team attended labourin sessions and didn't support the campaign (or worse worked against it) then perhaps it's them who should be stripped of the whip
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
50,395
Faversham
In answer to your question, below, I am suspect not. It shows the level of delusion that Corbyn has. Yes, he will likely be re-elected if he stands against a challenger in the Autumn, owing to the soppy system labour has. And sadly he thinks this is democratic, and justifies his stance, whereas in fact it is electoral suicide. Aside from any arguments about what the party as a whole prefers is 'best', he has to sell himself to the electorate, and if this MASS of labour MPs don't waht him, why should we vote for him?

I just saw Angel Eagle on the telly, visibly broken by the whole shambles. And yet she is being touted as a new labour leader. How I hanker for the anodyne days of TB and gentle concensus politics. . . . <sigh>


Just to summarise... this is the list of Labour resignations over the last two days:

Yesterday:

  • 21:19 Shadow Leader of the House Chris Bryant resigns.
  • 19:08 Karl Turner, Shadow Attorney General, is next to quit.
  • 17:46 Blairite Shadow Justice Secretary Charlie Falconer resigns.
  • 17:20 Tom Watson says he is “deeply disappointed” by Hilary Benn’s sacking and “equally saddened” by resignations.
  • 16:51 Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary Vernon Coaker quits.
  • 13:44 Close McDonnell ally, Shadow Chief Secretary Seema Malhotra resigns.
  • 13:09 Shadow Environment Secretary Kerry McCarthy goes too.
  • 12:58 Andy Burnham says he WON’T resign.
  • 12:56 Shadow Education Secretary Lucy Powell resigns.
  • 12:55 Confirmed Lilian Greenwood quits.
  • 12:40 Len McCluskey says it’s a “pathetic and futile coup” against Corbyn. Says Tom Watson will back Jez.
  • 12:30 Lucy Powell has told MPs she’s resigning from shadow cabinet later this afternoon.
  • 11:38 Confirmed Ian Murray has gone. He’s Labour’s only Scottish MP.
  • 11:07 Gloria De Piero quits.
  • 09:52: Shadow Scotland Secretary Ian Murray set to quit, along with Shadow Transport Secretary Lilian Greenwood.
  • 08:15 Corbyn says he won’t resign.
  • 08:00 Shadow Health Secretary Heidi Alexander resigns.
  • 01:00 Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn sacked in the early hours. He had been about to resign.
Today:

  • 17:54 Melanie Onn, Shadow Deputy Leader of House, has resigned
  • 17:49 Sharon Hodgson resigns as Labour’s Shadow Minister for Children
  • 17:16 Shadow Police minister Jack Dromey next to go.
  • 15:26 Sir Keir Starmer quits as Shadow Home Office minister.
  • 14:21 Shadow Culture minister Thangam Debbonaire goes.
  • 14:18 Luciana Berger goes too.
  • 13:02 Shadow Women’s minister Kate Green quits.
  • 12:37 Maria Eagle quits as Shadow Culture Secretary.
  • 12:16 Shadow Welsh Secretary Nia Griffith quits along with junior Susan Jones.
  • 12:19 Shadow Housing Secretary John Healey also gone.
  • 12:17 Shadow Business Secretary Angela Eagle resigns.
  • 11:52 Housing PPS Matthew Pennycock also goes.
  • 11:51 Lisa Nandy and Owen Smith resign.
  • 11:40 Jenny Chapman quits Education team, Colleen Fletcher quits Defra.
  • 09:58 Shadow Minister for the Natural Environment Alex Cunningham resigns.
  • 09:20 Angela Smith, Leader of Labour in the Lords, and Labour’s Lords Chief Whip Steve Bassam both quit attending shadow cabinet meetings.
  • 09:02 Ruth Smeeth resigns as a PPS to the NI team.
  • 08:45 Education PPS Jess Phillips resigns.
  • 08:37 Shadow ministers Steve Reed and Yvonne Fovargue have gone.
  • 08:31 Wayne David resigns as Shadow Europe Minister.
  • 08:21 Justice PPS Chris Matheson quits.
  • 08:06 Stephen Kinnock has resigned as Angela Eagle’s PPS.
  • 07:53 Neil Coyle, who nominated Corbyn, has resigned as PPS to Bryant.
  • 07:52 Diana Johnson resigns as Shadow Foreign Office Minister.
  • 07:49 Toby Perkins resigns as Shadow Armed Forces Minister.
  • 07:48 Anna Turley resigns as Shadow Minister for Civil Society.

Will we get the inevitable one tomorrow?
 








jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,635
Sullington
Is there anyone in the PLP that hasn't got 'former member of the Shadow Cabinet' on their CV tonight? :lolol:

Farcical scenes but actually deeply disturbing from a Party I have always had a respect for, even if I only voted for them the once.
 




NooBHA

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2015
8,586
I reckon those MPs have a far greater right to the party than the 250,000-odd £3 day trippers who joined last year. Those MPs have each got decades of campaigning behind them, knocking on doors, attending meetings, hustings, surgeries and the like. An ability to sign an online petition and tweet abuse at 'Red Tories' is no substitute for real political campaigning.

You are correct in that some of those 250,000 who paid a few quid to join the Labour Party are a waste of space - However, a large majority of those people were people who eventually saw something in Corbyn that reflected what they want from a Politician. Something which reflected them.

It seems that some members of the labour party scream that they want to engage the youth in Politics but it now seems only if they follow their beliefs.
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
It seems that some members of the labour party scream that they want to engage the youth in Politics but it now seems only if they follow their beliefs.

To a man and woman, I believe that every single one of those who have resigned campaigned tirelessly for a Remain vote. Specifically on Brexit which is what has precipitated this mess, the PLP has far more in common with the youth than Corbyn.
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,072
Burgess Hill
Dennis Skinner just showed exactly the contempt that everyone in the Labour Party has for these traitors, they won't be forgiven for what they've done this weekend

Trouble is that it is not the vote from the Labour party members that will get them elected, they need far more than that.
 








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