Well yeah.Victim?
I never liked DLT. I thought none of the funniest things I have ever heard on the radio was his on-air resignation. He was bemoaning the way radio 1 was going when, to me, he seemed to be one of the biggest problems.
EDIT: But that has nothing to do with whether he is guilty as charged
Pretty much agree with that, I'd also add that he took offence to Smashy & Nicey and would deride it regularly on his show. He always came across as somebody who was 'zany' in his public persona but the complete opposite off air.
Well yeah.
If you're proven not guilty of sexual charges after you've been splashed all over the media as a sex offender, then I'd say that makes you a victim.
it's for others to judge guilt on these things but I can't help but think this is a witch hunt going on and people are now being judged by today's ever so everything is and must be PC on events and things that happened in a very different world and era and things were far less clear cut .....That doesn't make it right or excuse those who crossed lines back then, the law is catching up on them and rightly so, but I doubt there are many people on here who at some time in the past have not had a few scrapes or 'unusual events' as I call them of some kind that at the time when happened were just that and laughed off but if judged by today's standards might look lot less good. At the moment it just seems that anyone whose vaguely well known from the 70's, 80's or 90's is at risk of allegations coming completely out of the blue and to all intents purposes being deemed instantly 'guilty' in the eyes of the public and media - if they attempt to defend and deny they still seem damned from the start and I am sure a few will accept on advice lesser guilty pleas simply because that is probably a lot less risky than facing a jury influenced by what they read and hear. Not sure that's justice.
I think you have to be very careful when this sort of thing starts rolling like some out of control lorry.
We were chatting about this in the pub after cricket and one of the opposition guys works in the national media in London. He was "approached" by a group who wanted the writers and producers of such programmes as" love They Neighbour" " Mind your language" and the Alf Garnett one to be prosecuted for race crimes, ie inciting racial hatred in the 70's and 80's and their argument was that if Saville, Barlow and Hall etc could be retrospectively persued for crimes back in that period, then they had every right to persue these people. naturally he said no, but he had the opinion that they would just trawl the media until someone picket it up!
If it wasn't a crime at the time, they couldn't be prosecuted.
I think you have to be very careful when this sort of thing starts rolling like some out of control lorry.
We were chatting about this in the pub after cricket and one of the opposition guys works in the national media in London. He was "approached" by a group who wanted the writers and producers of such programmes as" love They Neighbour" " Mind your language" and the Alf Garnett one to be prosecuted for race crimes, ie inciting racial hatred in the 70's and 80's and their argument was that if Saville, Barlow and Hall etc could be retrospectively persued for crimes back in that period, then they had every right to persue these people. naturally he said no, but he had the opinion that they would just trawl the media until someone picket it up!
And, since "Til Death Us Do Part" was instrumental in exposing the idiocy of racial hatred, it would be a bit of a challenge to prove an incitement charge.If it wasn't a crime at the time, they couldn't be prosecuted.
Whatever happened to large scale Misogyny like this? I expect DLT was contractually obliged to perv it up big style. He's not going to stand there sucking a thoughtful tooth and awarding points for artistic interpretation. " Ah yes I see the nipple is estanding perpendicular to the aureole, this is emblematic of the raised fascist salute, post Zionist hegemony..Bravo Miss"
Besides, if a girl is in a Miss wet T shirt competition in front of hundreds of people...she probably isn't the shy type and clearly expects a bit of letching...otherwise I don't really see the point.
Hear what you are saying about a witch hunt but if you fingered a 14 yr old girl in the 70s or 80s I'm pretty sure it's as serious as doing it now and needs to be dealt with.
Travis was a self important, humourless, pretentious twerp - and his music taste was awful as well.
it's for others to judge guilt on these things but I can't help but think this is a witch hunt going on and people are now being judged by today's ever so everything is and must be PC on events and things that happened in a very different world and era and things were far less clear cut .....That doesn't make it right or excuse those who crossed lines back then, the law is catching up on them and rightly so, but I doubt there are many people on here who at some time in the past have not had a few scrapes or 'unusual events' as I call them of some kind that at the time when happened were just that and laughed off but if judged by today's standards might look lot less good. At the moment it just seems that anyone whose vaguely well known from the 70's, 80's or 90's is at risk of allegations coming completely out of the blue and to all intents purposes being deemed instantly 'guilty' in the eyes of the public and media - if they attempt to defend and deny they still seem damned from the start and I am sure a few will accept on advice lesser guilty pleas simply because that is probably a lot less risky than facing a jury influenced by what they read and hear. Not sure that's justice.