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The establishment and historic child sex abuse
- Thread starter Pinkie Brown
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aolstudios
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gregbrighton
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No chance, with the police doing the dirty work for the establishment....
spring hall convert
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Judging by the level of interest on this thread, I suspect it won't be.
I'm not blaming anyone but there are large swathes of this country that find even contemplating what might have gone on here so horrifying they'd rather bury their heads in the sand.
Nazi Germany anyone? All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
spring hall convert
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Quite.
aolstudios
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30052726
& they've quietly dropped N.Ireland from the enquiry, conveniently leaving Kincora boys home out. Which is this, only far, far bigger & murkier
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I can't see how police forces will be able to fund the cost of properly investigating these incidents, or where they'll get the manpower from.
Last night 5Live was on about 900-odd victims of physical / sexual abuse at some young offenders centre in the 70s and 80s. Just taking the statements, following up the allegations is a huge undertaking. If the government is serious about this matter they'll announce in the Autumn Statement on 3rd December that they're going to give emergency budget increases to forces dealing with Elm House / Yew Tree-type stuff.
There are plenty of retired policemen still providing services on an agency-style basis that they could re-hire. It would be a shame if cost prevented justice.
Last night 5Live was on about 900-odd victims of physical / sexual abuse at some young offenders centre in the 70s and 80s. Just taking the statements, following up the allegations is a huge undertaking. If the government is serious about this matter they'll announce in the Autumn Statement on 3rd December that they're going to give emergency budget increases to forces dealing with Elm House / Yew Tree-type stuff.
There are plenty of retired policemen still providing services on an agency-style basis that they could re-hire. It would be a shame if cost prevented justice.
spring hall convert
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Cameron - what an utter ********.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30002908
Prime Minister David Cameron said the report meant people "looking for conspiracy theories" would "have to look elsewhere".
What an unbelievably crass thing to say. This is just the beginning, perhaps you should have listened to Phillip Schofield in the first place.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30002908
Prime Minister David Cameron said the report meant people "looking for conspiracy theories" would "have to look elsewhere".
What an unbelievably crass thing to say. This is just the beginning, perhaps you should have listened to Phillip Schofield in the first place.
Cian
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Considering what's coming out about Sinn Fein in the Irish media at the moment, they may be waiting to see what gets turned up in public first.
Basically, it appears that SF had a habit of doing a Catholic Church and moving anyone in the party or their sphere of influence accused of sexual abuse / rape across the border from whichever side it may be; while ensuring that it was never reported to the authorities. Adams's brother being one of them.
I've no reason to assume they have any good reasons for dropping part of an enquiry but there is at least that vague chance they're waiting till there's enough reason to go after both sides of the political divide up there; the Kincora scandal mostly pointing at the opposite side to SF so far.
aolstudios
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thisistips
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Let's hope some others are brave enough to come forward, so that the stories can be corroborated and convictions obtained.
spring hall convert
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I see Mr Cameron's got more to say about the beheading of a foreign national in a foreign country than an allegation of an ex-MP and (I'd imagine) current member of the party being accused of the sexual abuse and murder of boy(s).
Best i keep quiet.
aolstudios
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please don't...
aolstudios
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spring hall convert
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aolstudios
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So basically, shut up, be quiet & be patient. It'll all get sorted out in the end. Past performance being a guide to the future...