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The Denver killer is clearly a very very sick young Man.



Uncle Spielberg

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The Denver killer is clearly a very very sick young Man.

There are no winners here.
 




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I am sure the concensus will be " f*** him " " hang him high " but I am not convinced it really acheives a lot at the end of the day. I find it tragic and horrendous the actions he took but also tragic that society and what happened to him made him do it. No one is born evil imo and life's events dictate actions. Fortunately only a tiny fraction of people take out their frustrations in the manner he did but it is obvious he is very ill. So the question is, if someone is very very ill and does what he did, what does society do ?
 




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stss30

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What's made you suddenly jump to this conclusion, have you been stuck in a cave for the past couple of days?
 


severnside gull

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Sadly society created the monster. How it proposes to deal with it may well be part of the problem.

Call me a reactionary old fool but I worry about shoot 'em up computer games where reality and fantasy merge. Any right thinking person understands that you don't get shot and blown apart and just get up and go again but as learning disabilities become more and more common clearly not everyone is right thinking.
 


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He is very intelligent which seems to be a trend with these mass killers. He is convinced he is Heath Ledger from the last Batman film. Any sensible contributions ?
 




Munkfish

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Sadly society created the monster. How it proposes to deal with it may well be part of the problem.

Call me a reactionary old fool but I worry about shoot 'em up computer games where reality and fantasy merge. Any right thinking person understands that you don't get shot and blown apart and just get up and go again but as learning disabilities become more and more common clearly not everyone is right thinking.

Or just dont make guns easily available to people! But this was obviously computer games fault!!!!!!
 


Brightonfan1983

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I am sure the concensus will be " f*** him " " hang him high " but I am not convinced it really acheives a lot at the end of the day. I find it tragic and horrendous the actions he took but also tragic that society and what happened to him made him do it. No one is born evil imo and life's events dictate actions. Fortunately only a tiny fraction of people take out their frustrations in the manner he did but it is obvious he is very ill. So the question is, if someone is very very ill and does what he did, what does society do ?

Some people are born with a far higher propensity for 'evil' (not a great word) than your average Joe; I'm no psychologist but until we work out how to get to them before they at some point commit awfulness, awful things will continue to happen.

I think that we've got it about right - regular prison is pointless, but secure mental hospitals at least give us the reassurance that the patients are being held in an appropriate environment.
 


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Brightonfan1983

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Or just dont make guns easily available to people! But this was obviously computer games fault!!!!!!

The cinema chain has announced it will no longer allow costumed face-masks and fake guns into its screenings. Which is the only reaction one could have possibly expected. Bring the government around a table and discuss the entire issue of weapons/US society? Don't be silly.
 




Cheeky Monkey

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Keep the killings coming I say Uncs. The more the merrier - only then will America look at it's f***ing stupid 'The right to bear arms' stance. (and maybe stop selling violent films like Munich in it's video stores)

Land of the free and home of the gunned down outside the movie theatre/high school/convenience store.
 




Brightonfan1983

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Keep the killings coming I say Uncs. The more the merrier - only then will America look at it's f***ing stupid 'The right to bear arms' stance. (and maybe stop selling violent films like Munich in it's video stores)

Land of the free and home of the gunned down outside the movie theatre/high school/convenience store.

Isn't Munich just a bit dull, or are you having an anti-Spielberg moment? :)
 


StonehamPark

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I don't believe any amount of treatment or 'help' will turn this person into an upstanding and normal member of society.
Lethal injection is probably the best and most economic option for the tax payer, albeit an escape too quick and painless for this man.
 




Uncle Spielberg

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Keep the killings coming I say Uncs. The more the merrier - only then will America look at it's f***ing stupid 'The right to bear arms' stance. (and maybe stop selling violent films like Munich in it's video stores)

Land of the free and home of the gunned down outside the movie theatre/high school/convenience store.

Er what ? I would think the torture films like Hostel and the like may be worse myself.
 






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