The Adam Clayton saga - now officially signed for Middlesbrough

[Greavsey]

It'd be shit in the Premier League anyway. Sometimes the journey is more exciting than the destination.

Excellent. Sums up exactly how I feel. I would love this to be on the backdrop to the Q&A session at the forum tonight! Or the mission statement on the new club shop livery!

 

[keaton]

Once we'd added Ulloa and Upson then yes. So it was better for half a season. i.e a starting XI of

TK

Bruno (when still good) Greer Upson Bridge
Bridcutt Vicente Hammond
Lua Lua Ulloa Buckley

was possible

FAR better than what will start on Saturday now.

I don't think there was ever a point when Bruno was still good and we had Upson and Ulloa. And those two couldn't have played with Vicente on more than a handful of occasions

 

[El Presidente]

In the current climate with parachute payments and clubs flouting FFP to scramble over pretty average championship players like Clayton I think developing our own players is more important than ever.

Dunk, JFC, March, Ince, Walton and even Buckley all have long term deals and look more than capable first team championship players.

Where the club do seem to have slipped us is allowing so many first team players to leave over the last 2 windows while other clubs without our FFP principles compete with us for signings. I think we will be scrambling around on deadline day.

Which clubs are flouting FFP?

 

[y2dave]

Which clubs are flouting FFP?

Apparently we find out December 2014.

 

[Mackenzie]

Excellent. Sums up exactly how I feel. I would love this to be on the backdrop to the Q&A session at the forum tonight! Or the mission statement on the new club shop livery!

At least it would be honest!

 

[El Presidente]

Apparently we find out December 2014.

So why say others are flouting the rules whilst we have principles?

 

[Charlies Shinpad]

It'd be shit in the Premier League anyway. Sometimes the journey is more exciting than the destination.

Remember going up the last time into the big boys league and the fun was getting there and once we got there Im sure crowds went down (And that was before Sky was invented !)

 

[Guinness Boy]

I don't think there was ever a point when Bruno was still good and we had Upson and Ulloa. And those two couldn't have played with Vicente on more than a handful of occasions

I was asked if the squad was that good. It was.

Compare my XI there to

Stockdale

Bruno Hughes Greer Chicksen
Toko Crofts JFC
Buckley COG CMS / Lua Lua

Bench: Dunk, Casper, Lua Lua / CMS, Calderon (covering both full back positions), the other midfielders.

The only position we have improved on is Stockdale. Toko might or might not be better than Bridcutt, not seen enough of him.

 

[y2dave]

So why say others are flouting the rules whilst we have principles?

Through work I deal with cost transparency and some peers who've worked in Football administration reckon 5-6 clubs will fail.

 

[El Presidente]

Once we'd added Ulloa and Upson then yes. So it was better for half a season. i.e a starting XI of

TK

Bruno (when still good) Greer Upson Bridge
Bridcutt Vicente Hammond
Lua Lua Ulloa Buckley

was possible

FAR better than what will start on Saturday now.

Yet only one player in double figures, and that was 11 for our highest scorer.

 

[El Presidente]

Through work I deal with cost transparency and some peers who've worked in Football administration reckon 5-6 clubs will fail.

So the vast majority have complied with FFP?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yet only one player in double figures, and that was 11 for our highest scorer.

Exactly, that squad underachieved.

 

[y2dave]

So the vast majority have complied with FFP?

Only if reported losses are covered by an equity investment. It will be interesting to see how many clubs from 13/14 are within FFP, require equity to avoid breach, are beyond FFP limits and those with parachute payments.

 

[TSB]

Through work I deal with cost transparency and some peers who've worked in Football administration reckon 5-6 clubs will fail.

Is this a guessing game? I'll go for 10+ in our league alone.

 

[jamie the seagull]

In the current climate with parachute payments and clubs flouting FFP to scramble over pretty average championship players like Clayton I think developing our own players is more important than ever.

Dunk, JFC, March, Ince, Walton and even Buckley all have long term deals and look more than capable first team championship players.

Where the club do seem to have slipped us is allowing so many first team players to leave over the last 2 windows while other clubs without our FFP principles compete with us for signings. I think we will be scrambling around on deadline day.

I agree. So why pay a fee and £10k a week on a 28 year old left back from Wolves when we have Chicksen.....
We seem to spend money in the wrong Areas...

 

[carteater]

if we were relegated at least we'd have a good chance of being championiessss, brighton and hove albion league one champions 2015-16

 

[Albumen]

TB must be loving this news just before the fans forum.

Is the venue waterproof?

ha!

 

[sparkie]

So the vast majority have complied with FFP?

OK, so if everyone has complied with FFP, why are we losing out to non-parachute clubs with lower incomes for our targets ? Especially with a 8million+ cash windfall this year.

Something doesn't make sense here.

 

[Napper]

Hard not to get frustated.

Signed Stockdale , everyone happy and thought here we finally go. Its a bit late to integrate in the first game fully but ho hum , FFP , World cup , others the same . . . We can accept that.

Thenon Sat the Argus(which only prints truths) says 3 to sign everything looks positive and with the 10 million in and only 1 ish mil out there is suddenly talk of top 6 again.Some even mention top 2

Then follows 3 full energy sapping days of near deals , rumours but ultimately no deals.Our whole pre season can be summed up in whats occured Sun to Today.

3 full days until kick off and we are back in the mire. Shitty pre season even by the most rose tinted person.

I hope the fans forum gets some answers and doesnt chat about needless nonsense

 

[Biscuit]

Hard not to get frustated.

Signed Stockdale , everyone happy and thought here we finally go. Its a bit late to integrate in the first game fully but ho hum , FFP , World cup , others the same . . . We can accept that.

Thenon Sat the Argus(which only prints truths) says 3 to sign everything looks positive and with the 10 million in and only 1 ish mil out there is suddenly talk of top 6 again.Some even mention top 2

Then follows 3 full energy sapping days of near deals , rumours but ultimately no deals.Our whole pre season can be summed up in whats occured Sun to Today.

3 full days until kick off and we are back in the mire. Shitty pre season even by the most rose tinted person.

I hope the fans forum gets some answers and doesnt chat about needless nonsense

There will be those on here claiming it's been BRILLIANT. I bet they can't wait to get a tour of the Academy, down three pints of Harvey's and discuss quite what an exciting prospect Adam ****ing Chicksen is.