Switching the tie?

[One Legged Striker]

If we draw a big premiership club today at home, could we or should we switch the tie?

Good to get your thoughts.

 

[beardy gull]

We couldn't.

 

[fleet]

We couldn't.

and we shouldn't.

 

[Wozza]

FA rules say it's not allowed (unless under police advice).

 

[Frutos]

We can't and shouldn't even if we could.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

and we shouldn't.

and we wouldn't.

 

[Djmiles]

But we won't.

 

[Gully]

...our biggest chance of success, if we do draw a 'big' Premiership team, is to bring them down to our level...and that includes Withdean.

 

[strings]

Absolutely not. We had Manchester City at Withdean last year, yes there was a ticket binfest, but nothing in comparison to some of the recent away draws we have had (Tottenham/West Ham). Also, a big club at Withdean would probably be attractive to a TV company.

Withdean, like it or not, is our home for the next 18 months, whatever happens and whoever we play.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Agree Strings, Withdean is our home and we shouldn't be embarrased by it. We should be using it to our advantage, if anything. And if we do get a big boy here, we should turn off the heating in the away portakabin.

 

[fleet]

and we wouldn't.

But I fear that won't be the ned to it

 

[Guy Fawkes]

No we can't

The only reason i thought that a game could be switched was on safety grounds, that is why alot of non league teams that has been drawn at home have been unable to switch for a more lucrative pay day in the cup in recent seasons.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

FA rules say it's not allowed (unless under police advice).

Football League Clubs aren't allowed to seek police advice on the venue. Their grounds are automatically deemed suitable for big cup games. In the case of non-league clubs, if matches are to be switched, they are moved to the nearest available suitable ground.


9. VENUE FOR MATCHES

(a) Venue

(i) The venue of each match (save for the Semi-Finals or Final which will be played at
venues selected by the Professional Game Board) will be that of the first named Club.
Subject to Competition Rules 9(a)(ii) and 9(a)(iii) such match shall be played on that
ground unless the consent of the Professional Game Board has been obtained to any
change of venue. In the case of a replay, subject to Competition Rules 9(a)(ii) and
9(a)(iii), the match shall be played on the ground of the second drawn Club, unless
the consent of the Professional Game Board has been obtained to any change of
venue.

(ii) For a tie to be played on the ground of a Club outside The FA Premier League or Football
League playing a Club from The FA Premier League or The Football League a meeting
must be arranged by the Home Club with the local safety authority and/or Police and
representatives of The Association to assess the suitability from a safety or security point
of view of staging a tie at the ground. Any such meeting must be held within three days
of the date of the Draw (or the date of the drawn tie in the case of a replay).

Following such meeting, the Professional Game Board will decide whether to allow and
require the match to be played at such ground or not, taking into account the views
expressed at such meeting.

In the event that following such meeting, the Professional Game Board allow and require
the match to be played at that ground, the Away Club may still lodge a protest under the
provision of Competition Rule 9(b) if applicable.

In the event that following such meeting, the Professional Game Board decide not to
allow and require the match to be played at that ground then the first alternative
ground shall be the nearest suitable ground subject to the agreement of the
Professional Game Board.

(iii) In any event, the Professional Game Board shall have the power to order that any
match be played on an alternative ground or date, including a Sunday, if it is
considered appropriate and necessary. For ties switched from the ground of the Club
first drawn, then the Professional Game Board shall determine the financial conditions
in which the tie shall be played and this may include, any excess receipts to be paid
into the Pool.

(iv) No monetary or other consideration shall be asked for, offered or paid in connection
with negotiations for a change of venue.

(v) Any Club with a tie switched after declaring that the ground has been authorised to a
capacity agreed with the local authority or Police may be refused entry into the
Competition for the following season and be subject to such other action as the
Professional Game Board shall deem necessary.

(b) Protests Regarding the Suitability of Ground

(i) A Club may protest to the Professional Game Board that the ground of the Home
Club is unsuitable for the match. Such protest must be made to the Professional
Game Board within four days of the date of the draw and must be accompanied by a
fee of £250, which may be forfeited if the protest is not sustained.

(ii) The Professional Game Board shall have the power to consider the protest in such
manner and following such procedures as it considers appropriate. The Professional
Game Board may amongst other things order the match to be played on the ground of
the protesting Club, or on a neutral ground. The payment of the costs incurred by
either Club or The Association incidental to the protest shall be at the discretion of the
Professional Game Board.

(c) Ground Sharing

Clubs with ground sharing agreements must arrange for ties to be played on Friday,
Saturday or Sunday. If a clash of fixtures occurs with the sharing Club, if for any reason a
tie is unable to be played on the ground of the first drawn Club on a Saturday, the tie must
be played on either the day before, i.e. on Friday, or the day after, i.e. on Sunday on the
ground of the First drawn Club. If Clubs are unable to agree on the date, then it will be
played on the Sunday, unless the Professional Game Board decides otherwise. The
decision of the Professional Game Board shall be final and binding.

 

[fleet]

Football League Clubs aren't allowed to seek police advice on the venue. Their grounds are automatically deemed suitable for big cup games. In the case of non-league clubs, if matches are to be switched, they are moved to the nearest available suitable ground.


9. VENUE FOR MATCHES

(a) Venue

(i) The venue of each match (save for the Semi-Finals or Final which will be played at
venues selected by the Professional Game Board) will be that of the first named Club.
Subject to Competition Rules 9(a)(ii) and 9(a)(iii) such match shall be played on that
ground unless the consent of the Professional Game Board has been obtained to any
change of venue. In the case of a replay, subject to Competition Rules 9(a)(ii) and
9(a)(iii), the match shall be played on the ground of the second drawn Club, unless
the consent of the Professional Game Board has been obtained to any change of
venue.

(ii) For a tie to be played on the ground of a Club outside The FA Premier League or Football
League playing a Club from The FA Premier League or The Football League a meeting
must be arranged by the Home Club with the local safety authority and/or Police and
representatives of The Association to assess the suitability from a safety or security point
of view of staging a tie at the ground. Any such meeting must be held within three days
of the date of the Draw (or the date of the drawn tie in the case of a replay).

Following such meeting, the Professional Game Board will decide whether to allow and
require the match to be played at such ground or not, taking into account the views
expressed at such meeting.

In the event that following such meeting, the Professional Game Board allow and require
the match to be played at that ground, the Away Club may still lodge a protest under the
provision of Competition Rule 9(b) if applicable.

In the event that following such meeting, the Professional Game Board decide not to
allow and require the match to be played at that ground then the first alternative
ground shall be the nearest suitable ground subject to the agreement of the
Professional Game Board.

(iii) In any event, the Professional Game Board shall have the power to order that any
match be played on an alternative ground or date, including a Sunday, if it is
considered appropriate and necessary. For ties switched from the ground of the Club
first drawn, then the Professional Game Board shall determine the financial conditions
in which the tie shall be played and this may include, any excess receipts to be paid
into the Pool.

(iv) No monetary or other consideration shall be asked for, offered or paid in connection
with negotiations for a change of venue.

(v) Any Club with a tie switched after declaring that the ground has been authorised to a
capacity agreed with the local authority or Police may be refused entry into the
Competition for the following season and be subject to such other action as the
Professional Game Board shall deem necessary.

(b) Protests Regarding the Suitability of Ground

(i) A Club may protest to the Professional Game Board that the ground of the Home
Club is unsuitable for the match. Such protest must be made to the Professional
Game Board within four days of the date of the draw and must be accompanied by a
fee of £250, which may be forfeited if the protest is not sustained.

(ii) The Professional Game Board shall have the power to consider the protest in such
manner and following such procedures as it considers appropriate. The Professional
Game Board may amongst other things order the match to be played on the ground of
the protesting Club, or on a neutral ground. The payment of the costs incurred by
either Club or The Association incidental to the protest shall be at the discretion of the
Professional Game Board.

(c) Ground Sharing

Clubs with ground sharing agreements must arrange for ties to be played on Friday,
Saturday or Sunday. If a clash of fixtures occurs with the sharing Club, if for any reason a
tie is unable to be played on the ground of the first drawn Club on a Saturday, the tie must
be played on either the day before, i.e. on Friday, or the day after, i.e. on Sunday on the
ground of the First drawn Club. If Clubs are unable to agree on the date, then it will be
played on the Sunday, unless the Professional Game Board decides otherwise. The
decision of the Professional Game Board shall be final and binding.

If I bother to read that will it say we can't we shouldn't and we won't?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Wouldnt the nearest league ground be Shelhurst?

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

It's all irrelevant anyway, we're going to get a shit draw

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I really really want us to draw one of the big 4 at Withdean in the cup. I wanted it even more when we were fighting for Falmer, to draw attention to the crapness of the place, but even so, with only a season and a half left, not much time to get one. Come on draw.

What's the biggest team to come down here in our 8 or 9 seasons? Man City last year? Not much for the withdean legacy

 

[chimneys]

I really really want us to draw one of the big 4 at Withdean in the cup. I wanted it even more when we were fighting for Falmer, to draw attention to the crapness of the place, but even so, with only a season and a half left, not much time to get one. Come on draw.

What's the biggest team to come down here in our 8 or 9 seasons? Man City last year? Not much for the withdean legacy

Big 4 Hasnt the news that Manure got beat by Leeds reached Borneo yet??

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Big 4 Hasnt the news that Manure got beat by Leeds reached Borneo yet??

? still three of them left

 

[Ned]

But I fear that won't be the ned to it

What's switching the tie got to do with me