Sick pay

[spig100963]

I have been self employed for ages but recently went to work for a security firm
doing nights. Anyway the deal is 4 weeks paid leave and three weeks sick leave.
The guy who works with me considers the three weeks sick leave as part of his holiday.

Is this the norm now days?

 

[Hillian1]

I have been self employed for ages but recently went to work for a security firm
doing nights. Anyway the deal is 4 weeks paid leave and three weeks sick leave.
The guy who works with me considers the three weeks sick leave as part of his holiday.

Is this the norm now days?

A company my mate worked for used to do this until their HR dept realised that people asking for how much sick leave they had left were using it as holiday. It was removed very soon after and now paid at Director/Line manager discretion.

 

[Aadam]

It depends what industry you're in, I guess. We have six months sick leave I think, then discretionary after that. If it were the norm the building would be empty.

 

[upthealbion1970]

I have been self employed for ages but recently went to work for a security firm
doing nights. Anyway the deal is 4 weeks paid leave and three weeks sick leave.
The guy who works with me considers the three weeks sick leave as part of his holiday.

Is this the norm now days?

The guy who works with you doesn't sound like the sort of chap I'd like to work with tbh, people that abuse sick pay cost companies fortunes with that attitude and leave colleagues to do the extra work they can't be bothered to turn up for.

 

[Gazwag]

Lazy bugger, 3 week sick holiday leave treated as holiday no wonder our country is bankrupt

 

[spig100963]

It depends what industry you're in, I guess. We have six months sick leave I think, then discretionary after that. If it were the norm the building would be empty.

I bet you will find somebody is "swinging the lead."

If it became the norm, it would take the company I work for down.

But who is the mug me or the bloke having the extra three weeks on the beach?

 

[Wardy]

I get 6 months on full pay then 6 months on 1/2 pay but even then is some circumstances that can be on full pay (for example someone is currently off with cancer as been for 8 months and is still getting full pay). We used to have a group of people who were off work more than they were in. Took our HR department ages to get rid of them, they had to go through so many hoops to avoid the risk of a tribunal.

 

[spig100963]

Exactly. You can't sack someone for being sick. If they carry out the rest of the job proficiently it is impossible to get rid of them.

 

[MORTY]

Exactly. You can't sack someone for being sick. If they carry out the rest of the job proficiently it is impossible to get rid of them.

But that's not true is it. Ive dismissed people for poor attendance records many times

 

[mr sheen]

Exactly. You can't sack someone for being sick. If they carry out the rest of the job proficiently it is impossible to get rid of them.

I have. Took ages, but because of the amount of time he was off sick, he wasn't able to do the job.

 

[Aadam]

I bet you will find somebody is "swinging the lead."

If it became the norm, it would take the company I work for down.

But who is the mug me or the bloke having the extra three weeks on the beach?

Sure, there will be the odd one or two, I'm sure. But it's not the norm, which was the original question.

Exactly. You can't sack someone for being sick. If they carry out the rest of the job proficiently it is impossible to get rid of them.

You can. I've seen people dismissed for poor attendance.

 

[spig100963]

Sure, there will be the odd one or two, I'm sure. But it's not the norm, which was the original question.



You can. I've seen people dismissed for poor attendance.

Good. I worked with a guy many years ago who played the system. We were
doing shifts 4 on 4 off. Sometimes, with a bit of holiday, a bit of sick, would go missing for weeks. Nice sun tan though.

 

[ifuhatepalacestandup]

should think himself lucky all i get is ssp since i have been off my wage has gone from 1500 a month to 375 so all my savings gone coz i been ill

 

[spig100963]

Hows it going soldier. You up on your feet yet?

 

[gazingdown]

Surely, if you don't get sick you get NO sick pay/leave.

 

[ifuhatepalacestandup]

yeah am up and walking about now further each day first round of physio at hospital is next tuesday

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I do believe it's common is the US to have a sick quota per year which can be taken as hol if not used for sickness. I could be wrong, but I thought it was true.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

But that's not true is it. Ive dismissed people for poor attendance records many times

It may depend where you work, but all the companies I've worked for, if they have an issue with your sick leave, before the can get rid of you, they have to monitor you, give you warnings etc, make you prove it, or possibly send you to one of the companies doctors. It's certainly harder now that it used to be.

 

[spig100963]

yeah am up and walking about now further each day first round of physio at hospital is next tuesday

Beast him!

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

I do believe it's common is the US to have a sick quota per year which can be taken as hol if not used for sickness. I could be wrong, but I thought it was true.

Have to remember though that it's normal practice in the US to get only 2 weeks leave a year.