[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Eric the meek]

The BBC seems on top of this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-66599774

 

[Hugo Rune]

I’m surprised it took this long tbh

Me too.

The fact that he didn’t fall out of a window either is a little disappointing too.

 

[portslade seagull]

All seems a little to convenient with him being named as a passenger. Reckon he will pop up somewhere

 

[US Seagull]

Me too.

The fact that he didn’t fall out of a window either is a little disappointing too.

Agreed. If only because it robs us of the chance to use the word "defenestration".

We get so few chances...

 

[Hugo Rune]

Leading Wagner henchmen didn’t have a parachute either apparently:

Dmitry Utkin - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[dstanman]

Must of known what was coming his way

 

[dangull]

Well, they seem more accurate with shooting down aircrafts than Moon landings.

 

[raymondo]

Replace Prigozhin with Putin, and would you believe Putin had died in that crash?
No? So why would you accept Russian news that Prigozhin has died?

This could be a dress rehearsal for the main event, to be filmed and confirmed on a Russian state TV station near you shortly.

Yeah...much as we'd enjoy such news, we must remember these are announcements from Russia

 

[raymondo]

Just saw him mopping up the last bargains in B.Hill Wilko's.

Well there we go then

 

[Colonel Mustard]

The USSR held on to Afghanistan for a lot longer than than USA, NATO in trying to install a western democracy which ultimately failed.

USSR in Afghanistan was a total failure.

 

[raymondo]

Anyone who crosses Putin does not get forgiven do they? Biggest betrayal ever for him, can’t see Prigozhin having a cat in hell’s chance of dying of old age

Very true but he may not have been on that plane.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

Putin realises he cant get close to him to bump him off so does a deal. Putin looks tough and Prog lives. Win/Win

 

[raymondo]

Putin realises he cant get close to him to bump him off so does a deal. Putin looks tough and Prog lives. Win/Win

not impossible either (theory #2)

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I thought about the Prigozhin faking death theory.

But there are problems with it

1. He's recognisable, even with plastic surgery, it's going to be hard for him to stay hidden
2. Would the others on board, including the pilot not have smelt a rat?
3. Why would Putin entertain doing a complicated disappearance act for Prig and not just kill him? I suppose it could have been engineered by Prig, but it will be hard to pull the wool over Putins eyes. It's on Russian soil, so they will have access to black box, DNA, dental records etc

 

[Hugo Rune]

I thought about the Prigozhin faking death theory.

But there are problems with it

1. He's recognisable, even with plastic surgery, it's going to be hard for him to stay hidden
2. Would the others on board, including the pilot not have smelt a rat?
3. Why would Putin entertain doing a complicated disappearance act for Prig and not just kill him? I suppose it could have been engineered by Prig, but it will be hard to pull the wool over Putins eyes. It's on Russian soil, so they will have access to black box, DNA, dental records etc

In addition, in history, the Russian leaders lie about almost everything.

If they covered up Prig’s death and then he reappeared to tell the world all about it, it could spell the end for Putin. Better to just murder the evil ****er.

 

[dangull]

USSR in Afghanistan was a total failure.

Yes. But so was the USA alliance in trying to install a pro western government. I was just making the point that the USSR were able to control the country longer.
As it turned out, it probably helped to break up the Soviet Union sooner. Afghanistan has been a grave stone for Empires, including the British at the hight of its power.

 

[Vin]

All seems a bit fishy as usual

 

[Eric the meek]

Very true but he may not have been on that plane.

Obviously I don't know if he was on that plane, i.e. alive or dead, but the fact that Russian news released the info that he was 'on the passenger list', is (for me anyway), a strong indication that he wasn't on the plane.

 

[peterward]

I'm surprised he didn't move somewhere a long way from Russia. I thought the same with Saddam and Gadaffi when it was obvious what the ending would be.
The other 9 people onboard, I would have decided not to take that flight.

Dimitry Utkin was on board too, the former security services neo nazi whose call sign is Wagner, and where name comes from. Utkin was the Wagner military commander.

Putin has tried to totally decapitate Wagner, its leader and military commander in one hit.

Just waiting for him to blame the West and operation complete.

 

[The Fifth Column]

Yes. But so was the USA alliance in trying to install a pro western government. I was just making the point that the USSR were able to control the country longer.
As it turned out, it probably helped to break up the Soviet Union sooner. Afghanistan has been a grave stone for Empires, including the British at the hight of its power.

I'd stop now whilst you're still only a little behind, your appraisals of the Soviet and US Alliance experiences in Afghanistan are laughable and factually moronic. Stick to something a bit simpler like Love Island or similar.