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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)



Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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NATO being a defensive alliance obviously won’t start a war. There are other actors behind the scenes that would love a global conflict. What better way to cull a population than global war? After all, the planet can’t handle the current growth in population. It will come to a breaking point some time.
You need to lay off the strong stuff.
 








Eric the meek

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You are right to post the bad news as well as the good. Another example of how drones are changing the battlefield.

In the drone war, the Russians are learning and adapting. It isn't easy to defend against drones, whichever side you're on.
 


raymondo

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You are right to post the bad news as well as the good. Another example of how drones are changing the battlefield.

In the drone war, the Russians are learning and adapting. It isn't easy to defend against drones, whichever side you're on.
It will be interesting to see if tactical improvements can reverse these setbacks soon 🤞
 




Triggaaar

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The global population is declining and has been since the 1960’s.

What do you mean by this? The global population in 1950 was 2.5 billion, then in 1960 it was 3 billion. By 1970 it reached 3.7 billion and now it's at 8 billion.
 


Curious Orange

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What do you mean by this? The global population in 1950 was 2.5 billion, then in 1960 it was 3 billion. By 1970 it reached 3.7 billion and now it's at 8 billion.
That is staggering - the population of the planet has doubled in my lifetime 🤯
 














fly high

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Some good news although not sure how they fire them if they don't have the launchers unless there is something they already have which can do the job.
 


raymondo

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Apr 26, 2017
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Some good news although not sure how they fire them if they don't have the launchers unless there is something they already have which can do the job.
It's an interesting read. Sounds like the US will put some pressure on Europe to supply Patriot launchers - but then we read in there that Greece and Spain for example won't do that. Probably domestic politics getting in the way of doing the right thing for Ukraine.
All European countries need to start thinking of Ukraine as the eastern defence line for their own countries...because that's pretty much what it is.
 








Eric the meek

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raymondo

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I don't usually post updates from the ground war because a) I don't understand it and b) it is rarely good news. However, David Axe is a good writer, makes the news accessible, tells it how it is, and in this case, ends with a glimmer of hope. I'll take that.

Very tough conditions., and a big disparity of troop numbers involved.
 


Eric the meek

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Very tough conditions., and a big disparity of troop numbers involved.
Not sure there is an easy fix to the disparity of troops. Ukraine can't just conjure them up. Maybe tap into the female population for non-combat roles like drone operators / snipers etc?

Maybe the arrival of western smart weapons will make the difference. Ukraine seems to be good at finding weak spots in the Russian war machine.

Don't forget the 3 day special military operation is approaching its 800th day and Russia, which outnumbers and outguns Ukraine, still only occupies 20% of Ukraine. There's a reason for that.
 




raymondo

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Not sure there is an easy fix to the disparity of troops. Ukraine can't just conjure them up. Maybe tap into the female population for non-combat roles like drone operators / snipers etc?

Maybe the arrival of western smart weapons will make the difference. Ukraine seems to be good at finding weak spots in the Russian war machine.

Don't forget the 3 day special military operation is approaching its 800th day and Russia, which outnumbers and outguns Ukraine, still only occupies 20% of Ukraine. There's a reason for that.
Yes, Russia will always have superior troop numbers in these operations, so as you say Ukraine needs smarter weapons and tactics.
The current mobilisation effort in Ukraine has a softer approach, offering roles and asking for volunteers to take them: drone operators, chefs, tank drivers etc etc. There won't be many takers for front line troop operations though.
The Russian air and artillery advantage is starting to show - Ukraine need those promised weapons asap and many more drones and operators too.
 




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