[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Icy Gull]

Talk of face to face talks between Zelensky and Putin, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[nicko31]

Some incredible BBC journalism here, from the front line. Well worth four minutes of your time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60785679

These journalists really are putting themselves on the line to tell the world the truth

 

[Albion in the north]

Dont know whether its been mentioned on here but that was a pretty damning speech that Zelensky gave to the Bundestag.

https://youtu.be/2CnA5tEOkeY

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Christo Grotzev, Bulgarian investigative journalist with expertise on Russian affairs tweeted this link to an FSB whistleblower. He thinks in likelihood that it is genuine. I found it an interesting read.

https://gulagu-net.ru/news/2022-03-17-1239.html

 

[Wozza]

This is fantastic coverage.

Don't miss it..

https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[essbee1]

This is fantastic coverage...

https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/

That is brilliant piece of writing. Thanks Wozza.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

This is fantastic coverage.

Don't miss it..

https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/

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That my friend is an excellent read, thank you for sharing.

 

[Poojah]

This is fantastic coverage.

Don't miss it..

https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/

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Indeed - very well put together. I must say, I've massively ramped up my respect for the FT as a publication since the beginning of the Corona-crisis; it it comfortably led the way then in terms of measured reporting and it's been excellent once again in these troubling times.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[essbee1]

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Rot in hell you scum.

 

[nicko31]

Confirmation RT is nob compliant with Oftcom regs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60791734

Anyone think Press TV could make a comeback?

 

[Bry Nylon]

This is fantastic coverage.

Don't miss it..

https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/

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The expectation that Ukrainian resistance would be minimal can be seen in Russia’s early moves. Scott Boston, senior defence analyst at Rand Corporation, said an invading army would only rush into a city if it believed surrender was imminent and the priority was confiscating weapons from potential insurgents. “It turns out that getting there really fast is a good way to get shot in the face,” he said.

I have nothing but unending and enduring respect for the courage and ferocity of the Ukrainian resistance.

 

[Dorset Seagull]

This is fantastic coverage.

Don't miss it..

https://ig.ft.com/russias-war-in-ukraine-mapped/

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Excellent read. I was interested in the fact that it appears they have not made many air sorties because they are unable to prevent the Ukraine air defence systems from being effective. This made me wonder why Zelensky keeps urging NATO to provide a no fly zone which would be at odds with this. Could it be that Ukraine and NATO have decided that they actually do want Russia to take to the air more so they can shoot them down so it's a sort of double bluff?

 

[peterward]

Christo Grotzev, Bulgarian investigative journalist with expertise on Russian affairs tweeted this link to an FSB whistleblower. He thinks in likelihood that it is genuine. I found it an interesting read.

https://gulagu-net.ru/news/2022-03-17-1239.html

Just going to post the same, Christo and bellingcat are brilliant.

English version linked here too

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[1066familyman]

Professor Michael Clarke, former director of Royal United Services Institute, on Radio 4 Today's Programme, this morning from 1hr 14 minutes in.

Interesting what he says about some of the weapons Ukraine has at its disposal and how some would take weeks of NATO training to use, which he thinks must have already taken place.

So how long has there been NATO involvement in Ukraine I wonder?

 

[1066familyman]

Professor Michael Clarke, former director of Royal United Services Institute, on Radio 4 Today's Programme, this morning from 1hr 14 minutes in.

Interesting what he says about some of the weapons Ukraine has at its disposal and how some would take weeks of NATO training to use, which he thinks must have already taken place.

 

[peterward]

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While Poland is Struggling with the amount of refugees, Hell is also getting a lot new arrivals with indefiniate leave to remain

 

[peterward]

Professor Michael Clarke, former director of Royal United Services Institute, on Radio 4 Today's Programme, this morning from 1hr 14 minutes in.

Interesting what he says about some of the weapons Ukraine has at its disposal and how some would take weeks of NATO training to use, which he thinks must have already taken place.

So how long has there been NATO involvement in Ukraine I wonder?

So good you posted twice!

which weapons? those kamikaze drones?

 

[Eric the meek]

Excellent read. I was interested in the fact that it appears they have not made many air sorties because they are unable to prevent the Ukraine air defence systems from being effective. This made me wonder why Zelensky keeps urging NATO to provide a no fly zone which would be at odds with this. Could it be that Ukraine and NATO have decided that they actually do want Russia to take to the air more so they can shoot them down so it's a sort of double bluff?[/QUOTE]

It's strange that you mentioned that. It had also occurred to me as well, but from a different angle.

I have been struck by the number of times that Zelensky has called for a no fly zone. I'm left wondering if he and NATO have an agreement that he does this periodically, (perhaps it is code for 'send us more weapons') so that NATO can repeat its public policy to not participate militarily, while quietly doing the opposite? A proportion of the weaponry of NATO members will already be at or near the Ukraine border.

When Joe Biden or Ben Wallace announce an additional supply of weapons, perhaps they are already in place. I believe it's called logistics.

That's my conspiracy theory for today. Normal service will be resumed shortly.

 

[1066familyman]

So good you posted twice!

which weapons? those kamikaze drones?

It wasn't my intention to post twice. It was a mistaken duplicate.

Listen to the interview. You'll find out.