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Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Have never really understood this paranoia about a third world country with 1970's technology rocketry which must be under constant satellite surveillance by the Septics and would last all of 15 minutes in any conflict with them?

North Korea has always been technology very advanced in certain areas. For a very long time it was the economically strongest country in Asia, buying & developing modern tech from all over the world. Wealthy people from all over the world still go there to get certain types of very high-tec healthcare.

They have always had a very broad and efficient education system, since part of the Juche idea is to have a "whole society of intellectuals". Since it's been compulsory in NK to read a second language for many decades, most of the population either know Russian, English or Chinese, so they are able to utilize any information gathered from abroad.

This means that no one, except for (most likely) China really know their technological level when it comes to weaponry, so you cant just write them off. And China would be fairly likely to defend them if anything happens.

But I cant see them initiating anything. If you read all of Kim Jong-Il's books about Juche there is basically one message - dont get ****ed over by bigger countries.

"Sovereignty is an inviolable right of all parties, all countries, and all peoples. There are big and small parties, big and small countries, and economically developed and underdeveloped peoples in the world, but all parties, all countries and peoples are equal and independent. No one should encroach upon the sovereignty of others and no one should tolerate encroachment on one’s sovereignty." - from "On the Juche idea" by Kim Jong Il.

Though the Songun ideology & tight relation to China make them more of a threat, the main idea is still "leave us the **** alone". They have no reason to be the aggressor against anyone. If there is a war between NK and any other foreign power than SK, it is because that foreign power is instigating it to get hold of their vast mineral reserves.

North Korea is very far from how Western media pictures it, which is the usual case when the military-industrial-media complex is drooling over opportunities to expand its empire.
 








marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
3,938
We keep getting conflicting reports.
First it was "Kim Jong Un dead" and now it appears to be "Kim Jong undead"
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden




R. Slicker

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Jan 1, 2009
4,486
To get the thread back on topic.
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Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,633
North Korean state media is not exactly the most reliable source but there is probably a bit of truth to it.

If they were trying to fool the population and it later turns out he's dead, it would not be good for the WPK. I'd say he's alive but that there is reasons no photos were published - perhaps he looked sick.

There are pictures.

As usual, a bit like football rumours, it all came from one original anonymous source. And instead of fact checking news outlets ran with it.

We live in a post truth world.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,902
North Korea has always been technology very advanced in certain areas. For a very long time it was the economically strongest country in Asia, buying & developing modern tech from all over the world. Wealthy people from all over the world still go there to get certain types of very high-tec healthcare.

They have always had a very broad and efficient education system, since part of the Juche idea is to have a "whole society of intellectuals". Since it's been compulsory in NK to read a second language for many decades, most of the population either know Russian, English or Chinese, so they are able to utilize any information gathered from abroad.

This means that no one, except for (most likely) China really know their technological level when it comes to weaponry, so you cant just write them off. And China would be fairly likely to defend them if anything happens.

But I cant see them initiating anything. If you read all of Kim Jong-Il's books about Juche there is basically one message - dont get ****ed over by bigger countries.

[I]"Sovereignty is an inviolable right of all parties, all countries, and all peoples. There are big and small parties, big and small countries, and economically developed and underdeveloped peoples in the world, but all parties, all countries and peoples are equal and independent. No one should encroach upon the sovereignty of others and no one should tolerate encroachment on one’s sovereignty." [/I] - from "On the Juche idea" by Kim Jong Il.

Though the Songun ideology & tight relation to China make them more of a threat, the main idea is still "leave us the **** alone". They have no reason to be the aggressor against anyone. If there is a war between NK and any other foreign power than SK, it is because that foreign power is instigating it to get hold of their vast mineral reserves.

North Korea is very far from how Western media pictures it, which is the usual case when the military-industrial-media complex is drooling over opportunities to expand its empire.

I remember seeing that amazing state of the art hospital..... with no patients, apparently "Juche " leads to perfect health as a by-product.

I'm genuinely surprised how few people are shot trying to break in to NK in order take advantage of all the amazing benefits . There should be refugee camps on the borders surely full of people looking to get under a lorry axle or a train carriage ?
 




Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,123
West Sussex
Kim Jong Un may be holed up with his 2,000-woman ‘Pleasure Squad’

https://nypost.com/2020/05/01/kim-jong-un-may-be-holed-up-with-his-pleasure-squad-report/

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LlcoolJ

Mama said knock you out.
Oct 14, 2009
12,982
Sheffield
Have never really understood this paranoia about a third world country with 1970's technology rocketry which must be under constant satellite surveillance by the Septics and would last all of 15 minutes in any conflict with them?
This with bells on.
 


Buffalo Seagull

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Jun 1, 2006
638
Geelong, Vic, Australia

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SeagullinExile

Well-known member
Sep 10, 2010
5,713
London
Have never really understood this paranoia about a third world country with 1970's technology rocketry which must be under constant satellite surveillance by the Septics and would last all of 15 minutes in any conflict with them?

They have approximately 12,000 artillery pieces and 2300 MLRS systems apparently.

Its said they could unleash 10,000 rounds per minute into Seoul if war broke out.

15 minutes seems quite long tbh!
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
12,978
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Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
There are pictures.

As usual, a bit like football rumours, it all came from one original anonymous source. And instead of fact checking news outlets ran with it.

We live in a post truth world.

Yes its updated now, when I read it yesterday they said there were no photos.

As for the post truth world we've been living in it since about 600 BC...

I remember seeing that amazing state of the art hospital..... with no patients, apparently "Juche " leads to perfect health as a by-product.

I'm genuinely surprised how few people are shot trying to break in to NK in order take advantage of all the amazing benefits . There should be refugee camps on the borders surely full of people looking to get under a lorry axle or a train carriage ?

Yup, a lot of the hospitals are empty now and only the upper castes & rich foreigners got access to the open ones, a gradual development since the main provider Soviet fell and the American empire ( = the Western world) implemented the embargo in the early 00s.

Until ca 1980 when NK was described as an economical wonder it was fairly common to "break in to NK" to take advantage of the benefits and they did indeed have refugee camps. Today, when NK is a quite poor country, it is likely very uncommon from what I've seen and heard.
 






Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,633


Brok

😐
Dec 26, 2011
4,363
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Really?
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,749
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
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There's no limit!

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