Queen Elizabeth on the move

[Westdene Seagull]

A metaphor for our once great nation.

Or a perfect example of what sea trials are for !

 

[daveinprague]

We have taken and commissioned our main fleet entity, and it has a 200 litre an hour leak. Its an embarrassment. Sea trials tend to be before you commission, and I got the impression that workups were for the crew, rather than the ship.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Russia Today are quickly all over this in detail like a rash - https://www.rt.com/uk/413599-hms-queen-elizabeth-leaks/

News wise, The UK is the gift that keeps on giving to Moscow.

 

[Surf's Up]

What an easy and superb target this ship will make..........

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Teething problems, snagging etc. That's what work ups were for.

Exactly.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

We have taken and commissioned our main fleet entity, and it has a 200 litre an hour leak. Its an embarrassment. Sea trials tend to be before you commission.

In a 65,000 tonne vessel 200l and hour is nothing. I think you're letting the press hysteria get to you if you think this an embarrassment.

 

[beorhthelm]

Edited for you.

though you concede it is easily fixable issue?

i think its a fairly minor embarressment compared to the design flaw that it cant use catapult, so limiting it to the new fangled F35 rather than the cheaper and tested F18.

 

[daveinprague]

though you concede it is easily fixable issue?

It maybe, it maybe not. It may need to be dry docked.
The main point is, they knew about the leak before it was commissioned, but kept it quiet for some reason. Im guessing to rush it through.

 

[daveinprague]

In a 65,000 tonne vessel 200l and hour is nothing. I think your letting the press hysteria get to you if you think this an embarrassment.

So, why was the issue kept quiet. if they were not embarrassed about it?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So, why was the issue kept quiet. if they were not embarrassed about it?

It's effectively a working asset - I don't think it's too wise to advertise to your enemy you have a fault with one of your warships ( albeit a common one and easily fixed. ).

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Why can't we just celebrate the Engineering and skills that go in to building these things, instead of finding fault in absolutely everything.

 

[daveinprague]

It's effectively a working asset - I don't think it's too wise to advertise to your enemy you have a fault with one of your warships ( albeit a common one and easily fixed. ).

Wont be active until 2021

 

[daveinprague]

Why can't we just celebrate the Engineering and skills that go in to building these things, instead of finding fault in absolutely everything.

Celebrate? Sorry, but I believe that one of the fundamental design features of a warship should be that it doesnt fecking leak after coughing up 3 billion for it.

 

[vegster]

Celebrate? Sorry, but I believe that one of the fundamental design features of a warship should be that it doesnt fecking leak after coughing up 3 billion for it.

Did someone put the Bung in? And I don't just mean the one given to the shipbuilders.....

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Celebrate? Sorry, but I believe that one of the fundamental design features of a warship should be that it doesnt fecking leak after coughing up 3 billion for it.

The fault is in the propellor shaft.

The fault on the £3.1bn carrier was first identified during sea trials.

A Royal Navy spokesman said the ship is scheduled for repair and the fault does not prevent it from sailing again early in the new year.
A Royal Navy spokesman said: "An issue with a shaft seal has been identified during HMS Queen Elizabeth's sea trials; this is scheduled for repair while she is alongside at Portsmouth.

"It does not prevent her from sailing again and her sea trials programme will not be affected."

 

[daveinprague]

I keep picturing that thing we had to do in training, im sure all ex matelots remember it, where they stick you in a ship compartment set up... throw a thunderflash into it, and start flooding it whilst you had to use bits of wood and mattresses etc to bung the holes up

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The fault is in the propellor shaft.

The fault on the £3.1bn carrier was first identified during sea trials.

A Royal Navy spokesman said the ship is scheduled for repair and the fault does not prevent it from sailing again early in the new year.
A Royal Navy spokesman said: "An issue with a shaft seal has been identified during HMS Queen Elizabeth's sea trials; this is scheduled for repair while she is alongside at Portsmouth.

"It does not prevent her from sailing again and her sea trials programme will not be affected."

Exactly. Trivial. Move on.

Albeit there was a discussion on the radio this morning that we may not be able to pay for the fighter planes that are designed to fly from it.

Then somone mentioned that the Brexit bill will be around 19 times the cost of the boat and planes.....

Then it all went a bit quiet.

What a funny old world.

 

[daveinprague]

Exactly. Trivial. Move on.

Albeit there was a discussion on the radio this morning that we may not be able to pay for the fighter planes that are designed to fly from it.

Then somone mentioned that the Brexit bill will be around 19 times the cost of the boat and planes.....

Then it all went a bit quiet.

What a funny old world.

Think I read the planes will cost 120 mill each.

 

[dsr-burnley]

With water flowing in at a gallon a minute, how long would it take to sink the ship if the pumps all failed and they couldn't find a bucket?

 

[vegster]

With water flowing in at a gallon a minute, how long would it take to sink the ship if the pumps all failed and they couldn't find a bucket?

They could always send a load of homeless people down there, all those bags of clothes and assorted blankets would mop it up in no time at all, we have plenty after all.