Proper journalism - well done C4 News

[Dick Head]

Not fact. 'Decimated' means reduced by a tenth. It will be far, far worse than that.

I gave you a thumbs up because you know what 'decimated' means.

 

[Ernest]

Heavily fined by the EC so hopefully the CPS does its job now

 

[Machiavelli]

I gave you a thumbs up because you know what 'decimated' means.

Liberal intellectual elitists, the pair of you.

 

[Titanic]

Labour fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending including for Ed Stone

After the commission launched its investigation, the party undertook an internal review, unearthing 24 other undeclared election expenses totalling £109,777.

However, the commission’s investigation then identified 49 further missing payments totalling £11,357 that related to the transport of the party’s activists on the Labour Express tour and Labour Students tour during the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ared-election-spending-including-for-ed-stone

Lib Dems fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending
Electoral Commission fines party for failing to declare 307 payments totalling £184,676

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-fined-20000-for-undeclared-election-spending

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Don't be silly. Nobody would vote for an IRA supporting faffer, who appears on TV flanked by pony-tailed Momentumistas and Islamic fundamentalists (someone can post the images - I can't be arsed).

I am (was) a lifelong labour voter and it is jokers like you, supporting Corbyn for (I suspect) comedy purposes (you don't seem red in tooth aand claw) that add to the agony, helping to prolong the reluctant tory vote (as it will be) who will guarantee a Tory hegemony, by supporting the Islington Idiot. Or pretending to, for comedy purposes. Stop. Now. Her Majesty's loyal opposition needs to be effective. FFS, Corbyn backs Brexit (most labour supporters don't). Don't start me off. He is a disgrace who has destroyed any chance of small s socialism for a generation. The cock. And he's so stupid he refuses to accept that he's the problem. He seems to think the only reason he does not have a MASSIVE lead in the polls is because the voters are thick. Or perhaps he doesn't even care if he wins or not. He has no concept of leadership. And you really think he's going to win a general election (or are so idiotic you think the only reason he won't is because people think like me, so its my fault?). So how are you going to get him to win? Clever cloggs. Make Corbyn win and I'll take you seriously. Or howl at the moon. Or make silly jokes. You decide. Idiot.

It's for reasons like this that I actually toyed with the idea yesterday evening after a Party political Broadcast of joining the Lib-Dems. How else can one realistically register one's position against the current shambles..... and that is a genuine question.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Corbyn supporting (even reluctantly) Brexit is the most sensible and politically astute thing he's done. Thousands of solid labour voters voted, 'sod the Kensington and Chelsea, Westminster bubble socialists, we want out'
All those plastic Labour Party members must be right well p1ssed off. I really hope they're doing the decent thing, and resigning, 'cos they only ever joined as a joke in the first place.

Utter garbage. 65% of Labour voters voted Remain and Corbyn has lost huge swathes of support due to his post Referendum support for the complete clusterfvck that Brexit will be. I was a member of the Labour Party, but have left due to his stance. I was not a 'plastic'.

He has not backed Brexit 'reluctantly', he has always supported it.

The support for Corbyn and the Labour Party is now negligible, and you claim that what he did was politically astute?

 

[glasfryn]

tories fiddling and a 70k fine
yet this thread has Corbyn mentioned more and more
good twisting and slight of hand
thread should read its all Corbyn's fault
anyone would think think the tories are frightened of Corbyn
may's way deflect rather than discus the actual Question
if Corbyn is so bad why do the tories on here constantly talk about him

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Heavily fined by the EC so hopefully the CPS does its job now

Heavily fined? £70,000 is a slap on the wrist. If the Tories can get away with such a pathetic fine for this sort of electoral fraud they will regard it as an incentive to do the same thing again and again.

 

[jakarta]

if Corbyn is so bad why do the tories on here constantly talk about him

Because he is a joke of a politician and we all need a laugh?

 

[Titanic]

Labour fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending including for Ed Stone

After the commission launched its investigation, the party undertook an internal review, unearthing 24 other undeclared election expenses totalling £109,777.

However, the commission’s investigation then identified 49 further missing payments totalling £11,357 that related to the transport of the party’s activists on the Labour Express tour and Labour Students tour during the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ared-election-spending-including-for-ed-stone

Lib Dems fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending
Electoral Commission fines party for failing to declare 307 payments totalling £184,676

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-fined-20000-for-undeclared-election-spending

Heavily fined? £70,000 is a slap on the wrist. If the Tories can get away with such a pathetic fine for this sort of electoral fraud they will regard it as an incentive to do the same thing again and again.

They all do it and they all 'get away with it'.

 

[GT49er]

Utter garbage. 65% of Labour voters voted Remain and Corbyn has lost huge swathes of support due to his post Referendum support for the complete clusterfvck that Brexit will be. I was a member of the Labour Party, but have left due to his stance. I was not a 'plastic'.

He has not backed Brexit 'reluctantly', he has always supported it.y

The support for Corbyn and the Labour Party is now negligible, and you claim that what he did was politically astute?

Garbage yourself. When pushed, he said he was 7 out of 10 in favour of remaining. A stance that was ridiculed by remainers, who wanted Labour support for their European fantasies, not a very half-hearted endorsement. And millions of us Labour supporters, many in Labour heartlands, voted to leave.

Corbyn has spouted a load of sh1t - and still does, but if Labour are ever going to come again, they need to ditch the pro-Brussels fantasies of many of the PLP. That's one of the few things that Corbyn has got right.

 

[GT49er]

Utter garbage. 65% of Labour voters voted Remain and Corbyn has lost huge swathes of support due to his post Referendum support for the complete clusterfvck that Brexit will be. I was a member of the Labour Party, but have left due to his stance. I was not a 'plastic'.

Obviously then Green or Lib Dem is your proper place. Off you go then..........................

 

[carlzeiss]

Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Momentum guaranteeing a landslide for the Tories, and SNP, in 2020.

Nice work Jeremy.

Also trying her best the England phobic emily thornberry

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Garbage yourself. When pushed, he said he was 7 out of 10 in favour of remaining. A stance that was ridiculed by remainers, who wanted Labour support for their European fantasies, not a very half-hearted endorsement. And millions of us Labour supporters, many in Labour heartlands, voted to leave.

Corbyn has spouted a load of sh1t - and still does, but if Labour are ever going to come again, they need to ditch the pro-Brussels fantasies of many of the PLP. That's one of the few things that Corbyn has got right.

"7 and a half...maybe 7."

The whole tone of what he said was negative. He clearly didn't believe in the EU, but at the time, thought that he needed to be 'seen' to back it.

Not that he was seen very much.

Yes, millions of Labour supporters voted to leave. Statistically, about a third of them, with 2/3 voting to stay in. He has alienated an enormous amount of the party's support, me included. Labour need a pro-EU leader if they are ever to 'come again'. Their support has nose-dived since the referendum, and especially since that 3-line-whip he called on Article 50.

 

[GT49er]

"7 and a half...maybe 7."

The whole tone of what he said was negative. He clearly didn't believe in the EU, but at the time, thought that he needed to be 'seen' to back it.

Not that he was seen very much.

Yes, millions of Labour supporters voted to leave. Statistically, about a third of them, with 2/3 voting to stay in. He has alienated an enormous amount of the party's support, me included. Labour need a pro-EU leader if they are ever to 'come again'. Their support has nose-dived since the referendum, and especially since that 3-line-whip he called on Article 50.

Yeh, right - bring back Ed Milliband. That'll be a quick swoop into 10 Downing Street. Not!

Or you could try Tony Blair.........or Dianne Abbott......just how silly do you want your ideas to get?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Obviously then Green or Lib Dem is your proper place. Off you go then..........................

Unlike some, I will support whichever party comes up with the policies that I agree with. I can't abide all the 'died in the wool' Tory or Labour brigade, you know, the sort of people who say that they have always voted (insert party here) and always will.

I have, over the years, voted Labour, Green and Lib Dem - based on what their policies at the time.

At the moment I would definitely vote for either of them over Labour.

 

[GT49er]

Unlike some, I will support whichever party comes up with the policies that I agree with. I can't abide all the 'died in the wool' Tory or Labour brigade, you know, the sort of people who say that they have always voted (insert party here) and always will.

I have, over the years, voted Labour, Green and Lib Dem - based on what their policies at the time.

At the moment I would definitely vote for either of them over Labour.

Fine. I hope you and they are very happy.

And also, as politely as possible, I hope they lose their deposits!
(Incidentally, in the past I have also voted Liberal (or Lib Dem) and for the Ecology Party (before they became the Greens), but never again. The Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories in their lust for power at any price, and the Greens are just, well.................................................................................green)

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Yeh, right - bring back Ed Milliband. That'll be a quick swoop into 10 Downing Street. Not!

Or you could try Tony Blair.........or Dianne Abbott......just how silly do you want your ideas to get?

WTF...

You have named three people who I would not support, and pigeon holed in 'just how silly do you want your ideas to get?' These are NOT my ideas, they are silly little 'conclusions' that you have invented in your own world.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Fine. I hope you and they are very happy.

And also, as politely as possible, I hope they lose their deposits!

Why would you hope they lose their deposits? Do you want to stifle alternative views?

With the system that we have, their voices will never be heard to the degree that they should be...but it is NOT all about 'The Party', or shouldn't be. It's about what people stand for.

To me, the EU and our place in it (or relationship with it) is by far the most important issue of our times. Of course I will support the parties whose position on this issue I agree with.

 

[GT49er]

WTF...

You have named three people who I would not support, and pigeon holed in 'just how silly do you want your ideas to get?' These are NOT my ideas, they are silly little 'conclusions' that you have invented in your own world.

You don't want a pro-EU fanatic running your vision of the Labour Party then? Make your mind up.