[Albion] Premier League 24-26/2/24

[LamieRobertson]

Just for Edna K…..following last nights comment……(a Newcastle fan)

 

[Stat Brother]

Whatever the current yoof lingo is for being well turned out...




...Rio is it.

 

[Jimmy Come Lately]

Isn't 7th the European Conference spot?

I'm no expert on this stuff, but this UEFA coefficients page suggests that as things stand 7th could be the second Europa League spot (assuming we don't get a wildcard FA Cup winner). Might need Arsenal to get their act together in the Champions League. If we could knock Roma out of Europa that would damage Italy's standing, and West Ham beating Freiburg would be a good result.

 

[Bozza]

I'm no expert on this stuff, but this UEFA coefficients page suggests that as things stand 7th could be the second Europa League spot (assuming we don't get a wildcard FA Cup winner). Might need Arsenal to get their act together in the Champions League. If we could knock Roma out of Europa that would damage Italy's standing, and West Ham beating Freiburg would be a good result.

The Opta chaps currently predict England to get a bonus Champions League spot:

 

[LamieRobertson]

The Opta chaps currently predict England to get a bonus Champions League spot:

This was talked about on TS this past week and I got the impression that we wouldn’t get an extra spot…..this article seems to back that up…. I’ve probably misunderstood the lot

Does 5th place in the Premier League qualify for Champions League? How Arsenal, Man City exits affects coefficient ranking | Sporting News United Kingdom

Premier League sides have endured mixed results in the 2023/24 Champions League group stages and that could have a knock-on effect on qualification places for next season.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[Weststander]

It’s the Newcastle injuries, no other club has suffered

 

[Bob!]

Isn't 7th the European Conference spot?

Only if the Carabao cup winners already qualify for europe. If Chelsea win the cup then no.

Only if
The League Cup Winner AND The FA Cup Winner finish in the European places.

 

[Brok]

Surely Sheff U can get something out of this? A draw would be great.
A 9-0 win would put Wolfs above us.

 

[Bozza]

This was talked about on TS this past week and I got the impression that we wouldn’t get an extra spot…..this article seems to back that up…. I’ve probably misunderstood the lot

Does 5th place in the Premier League qualify for Champions League? How Arsenal, Man City exits affects coefficient ranking | Sporting News United Kingdom

Premier League sides have endured mixed results in the 2023/24 Champions League group stages and that could have a knock-on effect on qualification places for next season.

www.sportingnews.com

That article has a lot of focus on "how things stand" and, yes, if you look at the Opta table in that tweet, and the Pts column, Italy and Germany are currently in the top two positions. If everything ended now, England would miss out on an extra spot.

But Opta have projected how things will play out in each competition from here to get xPts - Expected Points - and on those calculations England will pip Germany to second place. They're giving England an 80% chance of finishing in the top two, so they have quite high confidence in their forecast, but it's clearly not certain.

It comes down to how well English and German teams do from here. Next fixtures are...

England
Porto v Arsenal
Manchester City v Copenhagen
Roma v Albion
Sparta Prague v Liverpool
Freiburg v West Ham
Ajax v Aston Villa

Germany
Eindhoven v Dortmund
Bayern Munich v Lazio
Real Madrid v Leipzig
Qarabag v Leverkeusen
Freiburg v West Ham

 

[martin tyler]

Surely Sheff U can get something out of this? A draw would be great.
A 9-0 win would put Wolfs above us.

Unless wolves are getting 4 points for a win they could score 100 and still be below us.

 

[Weststander]

Unless wolves are getting 4 points for a win they could score 100 and still be below us.

You’ve forgotten about Neto

 

[WATFORD zero]

That article has a lot of focus on "how things stand" and, yes, if you look at the Opta table in that tweet, and the Pts column, Italy and Germany are currently in the top two positions. If everything ended now, England would miss out on an extra spot.

But Opta have projected how things will play out in each competition from here to get xPts - Expected Points - and on those calculations England will pip Germany to second place. They're giving England an 80% chance of finishing in the top two, so they have quite high confidence in their forecast, but it's clearly not certain.

It comes down to how well English and German teams do from here. Next fixtures are...

England
Porto v Arsenal
Manchester City v Copenhagen
Roma v Albion
Sparta Prague v Liverpool
Freiburg v West Ham
Ajax v Aston Villa

Germany
Eindhoven v Dortmund
Bayern Munich v Lazio
Real Madrid v Leipzig
Qarabag v Leverkeusen
Freiburg v West Ham

As some visionary once said 'eees complicated'

 

[Brok]

Unless wolves are getting 4 points for a win they could score 100 and still be below us.

Ah, crap. I was looking at the table on page 1 of the thread.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

That article has a lot of focus on "how things stand" and, yes, if you look at the Opta table in that tweet, and the Pts column, Italy and Germany are currently in the top two positions. If everything ended now, England would miss out on an extra spot.

But Opta have projected how things will play out in each competition from here to get xPts - Expected Points - and on those calculations England will pip Germany to second place. They're giving England an 80% chance of finishing in the top two, so they have quite high confidence in their forecast, but it's clearly not certain.

It comes down to how well English and German teams do from here. Next fixtures are...

England
Porto v Arsenal
Manchester City v Copenhagen
Roma v Albion
Sparta Prague v Liverpool
Freiburg v West Ham
Ajax v Aston Villa

Germany
Eindhoven v Dortmund
Bayern Munich v Lazio
Real Madrid v Leipzig
Qarabag v Leverkeusen
Freiburg v West Ham

Looks like we're hoping for Moyes to be concentrating on Europe again.
On current form that should be an advantage to Germany.

 

[Motogull]

Blimey, that lot are still so jammy. Burnley 'keeper bollockses up and they go a man down. And the standard 'not a penalty'.

 

[Stat Brother]

Looks like we're hoping for Moyes to be concentrating on Europe again.
On current form that should be an advantage to Germany.

Blimey this is tough.

West Ham losing - always fun.
West Ham winning - better chance of Europe.
West Ham losing - always fun.
West Ham winning - Possible quarter final opponent stress-free, CHEAP travel.
West Ham losing - always fun.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

That article has a lot of focus on "how things stand" and, yes, if you look at the Opta table in that tweet, and the Pts column, Italy and Germany are currently in the top two positions. If everything ended now, England would miss out on an extra spot.

But Opta have projected how things will play out in each competition from here to get xPts - Expected Points - and on those calculations England will pip Germany to second place. They're giving England an 80% chance of finishing in the top two, so they have quite high confidence in their forecast, but it's clearly not certain.

It comes down to how well English and German teams do from here. Next fixtures are...

England
Porto v Arsenal
Manchester City v Copenhagen
Roma v Albion
Sparta Prague v Liverpool
Freiburg v West Ham
Ajax v Aston Villa

Germany
Eindhoven v Dortmund
Bayern Munich v Lazio
Real Madrid v Leipzig
Qarabag v Leverkeusen
Freiburg v West Ham

Come on West Ham

I feel dirty

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Blimey this is tough.

West Ham losing - always fun.
West Ham winning - better chance of Europe.
West Ham losing - always fun.
West Ham winning - Possible quarter final opponent stress-free, CHEAP travel.
West Ham losing - always fun.

Yep.

Same dilemma.

Plus it would be funny getting 3000 allocation for the away leg and only giving them 1500 for the return.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Just seen the Burnley red card offence.

Christ they get some luck don't they?

 

[Weststander]

Old Wilder will wait for the result, before giving his pre-match verdict on the ref.