[Albion] Our Players Diving !

[Nobby Cybergoat]

What's more concerning to me is that the opposition seem to be able to make foul after foul against us, breaking up play, before they pick up a yellow. I'm thinking Sarabea yesterday.
Fati and Enciso were frequently dumped on the ground...maybe not a studs follow through but still taken out.

There's something in this.

I wonder if you looked at bookings / red cards per foul this season, I bet we're the team who have committed the fewest fouls per card

We're normally the only team trying to play, whereas the oppo, whoever they are always slowing the game down with fouls. Even at City away we don't do this to anywhere the degree of other teams.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

....interesting how you see the behaviour cascade down to kids footie too as influenced by tv games....

Well, yeh, but if I saw my lad do this, I can promise you that would be the last time he would ever do it

 

[Mackenzie]

It really winds up the opposition fans. Part of why we go is the theatre of the game, carry on I say Facu, carry on.

 

[Seasider78]

The officials have a role to play in this as we have seen countless times if you stay on your feet or don’t do these theatrics the offending players are just not punished. Enciso popped up after he was clattered shortly after coming on yesterday and no yellow was given but if he had stayed down clutching his leg the ref would get a card out.

 

[Peteinblack]

Totally agree about the diving. Ferguson going nowhere based on current form.

RDZ neither!

 

[raymondo]

The officials have a role to play in this as we have seen countless times if you stay on your feet or don’t do these theatrics the offending players are just not punished. Enciso popped up after he was clattered shortly after coming on yesterday and no yellow was given but if he had stayed down clutching his leg the ref would get a card out.

There is some truth in this... shouldn't be, but there is.

 

[Garyoldfan]

Any mention of Lallana’s dive on Saturday (worst I’ve seen live)?

I'd even argue that Facundo isn't diving. He's being fouled and making a meal out of it. As the BBC commentary noted last night, he's back up every time, almost immediately, trying to get on with it.

Totally untrue. He stays down and leaves us a player short if he doesn’t get the foul.

 

[Garyoldfan]

Really doesn't bother me anymore.

The more Buananotte does it the less impact it has. He will grow out of it.

I find it very amusing when fans and managers of other teams, Moan about us doing it , completely ignoring the fact their own players are doing it throughout the game.

Yes , Sheffield United I'm looking at you

They all do it but buananotte does it constantly. It’s pathetic.

 

[Garyoldfan]

....interesting how you see the behaviour cascade down to kids footie too as influenced by tv games....

I’ve seen it as my sons matches, it’s mental. We used to be proud we never dived but now ….

 

[Beanstalk]

Totally untrue. He stays down and leaves us a player short if he doesn’t get the foul.

Which part is totally untrue? That he's being fouled and makes a meal of it? That the BBC commentary team noted that he does this but gets back up and involved? or that Lallana committed the most egregious dive against Everton (that I noticed you didn't make a thread about)?

 

[Garyoldfan]

Well, yeh, but if I saw my lad do this, I can promise you that would be the last time he would ever do it

I told my son I’d drag him off the pitch if he ever dived !

 

[Farehamseagull]

I don’t blame Buonanotte for doing it, last night and most weeks he, like most players like him, get absolutely battered by defenders who get away with it as we’re really not great at protecting skillful, talented players in this country.

I don’t like the fact that in this country that it’s fair game for defenders to rough up attackers and do things that are not within the rules and then when clever attackers get their own back with a little bit of playacting, there’s a lot of pearl clutching.

 

[Sirnormangall]

It’s a Latin thing?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Is it really that big a deal?

And if we're happy to watch these talented South American players week in week out then you will have to accept it as it is very much part of the culture they grow up in. And to be honest is now embedded in youth football in this country.

Exactly …still easy to have another moan and groan after a defeat.

Most teams have at least one player who has this habit…..then you have others like the Fulham one down here earlier in the season that had plenty …..shrug

 

[Uh_huh_him]

If a player rolls around after not being fouled, I think it's embarrassing.

I don't think Facu is particularly guilty of this.
He does like a roll around after a foul though, as does Enciso, and most of our younger players.
Often the foul isn't given as it's seen as the opponent being "too strong" for him.

As long as it's calling the ref's attention to a genuine infringement I have no issue with it.
Grealish, and Zaha built careers around it.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

It’s a Latin thing?

Nope.

Grealish was the king of it

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Is it really that big a deal?

And if we're happy to watch these talented South American players week in week out then you will have to accept it as it is very much part of the culture they grow up in. And to be honest is now embedded in youth football in this country.

Thin. End. Of. Wedge.

 

[Garyoldfan]

I don’t blame Buonanotte for doing it, last night and most weeks he, like most players like him, get absolutely battered by defenders who get away with it as we’re really not great at protecting skillful, talented players in this country.

I don’t like the fact that in this country that it’s fair game for defenders to rough up attackers and do things that are not within the rules and then when clever attackers get their own back with a little bit of playacting, there’s a lot of pearl clutching.

I blame buonanotte 100% for diving. Is it a lookalike ?

 

[Garyoldfan]

Any mention of Lallana’s dive on Saturday (worst I’ve seen live)?

I'd even argue that Facundo isn't diving. He's being fouled and making a meal out of it. As the BBC commentary noted last night, he's back up every time, almost immediately, trying to get on with it.

It’s the “id even argue facundo isn’t diving” bit that’s a lie. He’s diving and it’s embrassing. Holding his face, his leg and any other part of his body. He’s cheating. So are loads of other players and I hate it.

 

[Garyoldfan]

It’s a Latin thing?

It’s a wanky thing.