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I couldn’t walk after my 5k PB, and could only just about breathe. Took me another 2 days before I could face the next 5k.
John Regis 300m Champion
Maybe I'll work on running 1.19876 mile races.................The calculators obviously work differently for elites, for distance to middle distance runners and with age. This calculator adopts your rule with a 1min45 sec increase from 5K X2 https://sporttracks.mobi/labs/race-finish-time-predictor#type=long-distances Putting my mile time in gives 41:50 which IS not going to happen, which highlights how you adapt your own running to the calculators. I'm a short track bully and suffer longer distance burn out.
John Regis 300m Champion
The calculators obviously work differently for elites, for distance to middle distance runners and with age. This calculator adopts your rule with a 1min45 sec increase from 5K X2 https://sporttracks.mobi/labs/race-finish-time-predictor#type=long-distances Putting my mile time in gives 41:50 which IS not going to happen, which highlights how you adapt your own running to the calculators. I'm a short track bully and suffer longer distance burn out.
I need to put 18:43 for a 5km into that for it to produce 39:01, my actual 10km best.
If I put in that 10km best of 39:01, it predicts 1:26:05 for the half-marathon, which is nearly 9 minutes quicker than I've done.
yeah good point , my pb is 20:07 5k and 40:33 10k ( generally im about 21ish and 42 ish at the moment though)
Based on what you have said , I maybe should be quicker and sub 20 on my 5 k then. Maybe thats where I'm not quite emptying the tank like i think i am
You're still defying gravity with your improvements and should beat any current predictor if ever in a race.
Then the fear of blowing up halfway round will either boost your adrenaline to a record performance or you will blow up! That's the magic of putting it on the line.
What's your 10 mile best ? You'd be pretty close to being able to extrapolate that min per mile for a HM - hanging on for 3 miles is doable, particularly in a race environment. From what you've been posting 1.26 sounds far more likely than 1.35 even without gunning it.
Garry Nelson's teacher
Well-known member
Bugger! If I'd have known you were going to be moving at this pace, I'd have challenged you to a race!
Artie Fufkin
like to run
Mirroring your 5k PB race pace effort over 10k on a kind flattish course is quite some feat.
I took my 10m best from 1:10:36 to 1:08:01 on my runstreak anniversary.
Looking at it on Strava now, I sped up a bit as I went. My splits were: 7:00 - 6:52 - 6:55 - 7:02 - 7:03 - 6:46 - 6:41 - 6:27 - 6:34 - 6:46
I can't recall the run now, but I suppose it's likely I had 3 * 7 minute miles in me if I really needed to, which would have got me to just sub 1:30.
Artie Fufkin
like to run
Talking of running fast and racing, the British Olympic Marathon Trials takes place on Friday morning in Richmond around Kew Gardens.
There's some seriously rapid guys and girls running. The first two eligible men and women who hold an Olympic qualifying time standard will secure a place at the Tokyo Olympics.
A couple of the men and women already have the qualifying time in the bag so (just) need to come top 2. Most don't have the qualifying time though so they'll be going out to get under the time AND come in the top 2.
It's available to stream on the British Athletics website and BBC online. Gun goes off at 8am. Should be a great watch.
There's some seriously rapid guys and girls running. The first two eligible men and women who hold an Olympic qualifying time standard will secure a place at the Tokyo Olympics.
A couple of the men and women already have the qualifying time in the bag so (just) need to come top 2. Most don't have the qualifying time though so they'll be going out to get under the time AND come in the top 2.
It's available to stream on the British Athletics website and BBC online. Gun goes off at 8am. Should be a great watch.
Mirroring your 5k PB race pace effort over 10k on a kind flattish course is quite some feat.
maybe way train , red lining constantly , my max is my max speed regardless if its 100m or 5k or 10k , lungs are bursting whichever way do it . Drop off for me starts occuring 10k plus when legs and things start being on the edge of injures. Guess thats where long slow runs would help but just cant do it
Very individual isnt it
That's some going to be able to do a 100m sprint 62 times without a drop off.
ironically I'm a slow crap sprinter , may explain it
Artie Fufkin
like to run
Yes if I ran at that intensity of effort with that frequency I think I'd find it hard to enjoy my running and I'd break down in no time for sure.
Artie Fufkin
like to run
A nice sunny & still morning up in Hertsmere-land to get some quicker leg turnover work in the bank today. Nothing crazy - just some bread & butter 6 x 5 mins (off 2mins) intervals in a local park, starting out at 5:40 min/mile effort, progressing down to low 5:30s. Kept it controlled.
Some park maintenance guys who were doing some work in the park cheekily closed the footpath around the park mid session (they were watching me...) so I had to head onto the grass for the last 2 reps which was a nice change.
Some park maintenance guys who were doing some work in the park cheekily closed the footpath around the park mid session (they were watching me...
) so I had to head onto the grass for the last 2 reps which was a nice change.Garry Nelson's teacher
Well-known member
Started my 10k event build up with a nice easy 14k @ 5.30* pace. Well that was the intention. I delivered the 5.30 part but only managed half the distance. Knees creaking, motivation flagging. Need a picture of the Gaffer in full flow to pin up somewhere.
*that's per km Artie, not per mile!
*that's per km Artie, not per mile!
One of the runners - Paul Navesey - lives in Mid Sussex - often see him out and about and I know his parents (also runners). Think he's got a best of about 2.17.
Had my AZ jab on Monday night - no obvious side effects at all until I started to run yesterday - and was like a couple of gears were missing. Slightly better today but still a bit sluggish - not had any other issues (so far). I mentioned it on our coaching group and the coach said he's heard the same from several runners - suggested taking it easy for a couple of days otherwise seems those effects last longer. May be worth bearing in mind...........
I felt fine the morning after my AZ jab so went running but then crashed badly afterwards - fever/high temp- and did wonder if running contributed to this. May have been better to just take it easy the next day as a precaution.
A nice sunny & still morning up in Hertsmere-land to get some quicker leg turnover work in the bank today. Nothing crazy - just some bread & butter 6 x 5 mins (off 2mins) intervals in a local park, starting out at 5:40 min/mile effort, progressing down to low 5:30s. Kept it controlled.
Some park maintenance guys who were doing some work in the park cheekily closed the footpath around the park mid session (they were watching me...
When you say off 2 minutes, is that complete rest or jogged recovery?
I tend to vary my sessions between complete rest after intervals and jogging. Whilst I jog at a very slow pace, it makes a fair difference to my recovery.
Just used the Velodrome for 6 x 800 metres with 360 jogged recovery which is around 2 minutes duration. The last interval was 2:41 which I was pleased with. Not too far away from my best mile pace.