Malaysian airline crash

[Raphael Meade]

From the ex-US ambassador:

"@McFaul Russian GRU officer Strelkov admitting that he ordered the missile strike against the Malaysian jet."

Either this is incorrect and referring to the cargo plane they shot down earlier in the week, or they shot this down thinking it was another, as earlier posts here suggest...

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Why would Ukranian forces shoot down a plane - I wasn't aware that the Russian militants had any planes?!

Why would either side shoot down a passenger airline deliberately? As I have already said, nothing to gain in the slightest by this.

If they could pin the blame on the other side, perhaps?

 

[SeagullinExile]

If they could pin the blame on the other side, perhaps?

Yes. This is the only reason someone would shoot it down deliberately - False flag I think they call it.

 

[TomandJerry]

If they could pin the blame on the other side, perhaps?

There are three sides in this conflict, Ukraine, Rebels, Russians

 

[martyn20]

There are three sides in this conflict, Ukraine, Rebels, Russians

Only 2, rebels are totally armed and controlled from Russia, as they did in the Crimea, said they were not there when they were all the time.
This was not a false flag, bringing in Malaysia and the Dutch means too many variables, this is a mistake, by the 'rebels'

 

[SeagullinExile]

Whatever happened. My heart goes out to all the families of the victims. Coming from Amsterdam, I would assume that there will be UK casualties.

 

[SeagullinExile]

There are three sides in this conflict, Ukraine, Rebels, Russians

You forgot to add NATO to that.

 

[pastafarian]

18 years to the day since that TWA flight went down near Long Island,what a spooky coincidence.

 

[SeagullinExile]

18 years to the day since that TWA flight went down near Long Island,what a spooky coincidence.

Indeed.

 

[Mellotron]

This world of our needs sorting out pretty quickly ... difficult to see how

The answer is definitely not more violence yet that is definitely what will happen.

 

[martyn20]

Sky News again reporting a rebel leader put up on his Russian twitter feed that they had shot down another Ukrainian cargo plane and it had landed right next to the village the Malaysian planes smoke can be seen rising above. That post was then removed when news of a missing passenger jet broke!

 

[martyn20]

[h=2]Separatist leader 'boasts of downing plane in Ukraine'[/h] A separatist leader claimed on social media his men had shot down an aircraft in eastern Ukraine shortly before reports emerged of a passenger plane crashing in the area, Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty reports.
Igor Girkin wrote on Russia's largest social media site this afternoon: "In the vicinity of Torez, we just downed a plane, an AN-26 [a transport plane used by Ukrainian military].
"It is lying somewhere in the Progress Mine. We have issued warnings not to fly in our airspace. We have video confirming. The bird fell on a waste heap. Residential areas were not hit. Civilians were not injured."
The post also included two videos that showed black smoke billowing in the distance.

From http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-07-17/malaysian-passenger-airliner-crashes-in-ukraine/

 

[Rugrat]

The answer is definitely not more violence yet that is definitely what will happen.

Unfortunately I need to agree with you

 

[TheJasperCo]

American and Dutch nationals believed to be among the dead.

 

[clippedgull]

American and Dutch nationals believed to be among the dead.

Confirmed. Russian TV are showing passport close ups of the deceased.

also

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[The Wizard]

Absolutely dreadful pictures going about, I urge caution to anybody squeamish looking at photos.

This is really not going to go down well across the pond...

 

[Paris]

I've just come home to hear the terrible news. Horrendous scenes on French tv. Thoughts are with the family members of the innocent victims. This world is seriously ****ed up!

 

[bluenitsuj]

Lets hope those responsible get what is coming to them.

 

[beorhthelm]

Itar Tass, a russian news agency, still has a piece up that the "Donetsk People’s Republic" downs a plane at Torez. pretty clear fvck up by the rebels. at the very least it shows they had tools and where using them at the time.

 

[Black Rod]

No doubt it was the rebels - interesting to see the American retaliation to it

Is MH17 going to be a Franz Ferdinand?