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alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
What lovely people Momentum are , and by extension Corbyn too , here is some merchandise on sale at the Labour Party conference taking the piss out of wounded servicemen http://order-order.com/2016/09/25/momentum-mock-injured-soldiers/

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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,381
Brighton
Is that the same as Gordon Brown being given the job by Tony B Liar !!

Yup, it is. I'm not some silly tribalist who supports everything Labour does and says boo at everything the Tories do. Can't be bothered with all that petty points scoring. Support politicians whose policies you agree with, regardless of their party.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,801
Uffern
I'm not a gambling man but if I were I'd put money on Corbyn being the leader in 2020 and the next Labour leader after him being a woman, not sure who but there are plenty of excellent candidates. I think there will be enormous pressure from all sides of the party to make this happen.

Yeah, I did think of Stella Creasy as an option and Angela Rayner has done well but Labour does seem to have a problem with women. There have been some excellent Labour women who have got nowhere near the leadership

And I've long thought that Corbyn would stand down for the GE but I admit that I have absolutely nothing to justify that belief, just a hunch
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Yeah, I did think of Stella Creasy as an option and Angela Rayner has done well but Labour does seem to have a problem with women. There have been some excellent Labour women who have got nowhere near the leadership

And I've long thought that Corbyn would stand down for the GE but I admit that I have absolutely nothing to justify that belief, just a hunch

Angela Rayner's star is definitely in the ascendancy and she seems to hit the right note with a lot of people. Jess Phillips would make a good deputy. I like her a lot, she's gobby, opinionated but speaks from the heart, she has appeal outside her party and she's fearless. She has the makings of another Prescott and his part in the rise of the Labour Party especially in the 90s/early 00s has been largely forgotten. Phillips doesn't have the temperament to be leader but would be a great deputy.
 




coagulantwolf

New member
Jun 21, 2012
716
Does anyone ever vote for a political party they actually want in power? Or does anyone vote for what they see as the 'least worst' option?
 




Biscuit Barrel

Well-known member
Jan 28, 2014
2,711
Southwick
Just to confirm - "unelectable" Jeremy "unelectable" Corbyn - elected twice to Labour leadership.
Theresa "strong, sensible, not a warmongering anti-human rights c.unt at all" May - elected 0 times.

Cool.

Could you be anymore deluded?

When people (mainly the MP's in his own party) say that he is unelectable, they mean in a general election. They are not saying he is unelectable in a Labour leadership contest.

Socialism is not very popular amount the majority of people in this county. Just ask Arthur Scargill. He has just bought his £2M council property for £1M, under Mrs Thatchers Right To Buy Scheme. Even he is a capitalist now.
 




ditchy

a man with a sound track record as a source of qua
Jul 8, 2003
5,247
brighton
Yup, it is. I'm not some silly tribalist who supports everything Labour does and says boo at everything the Tories do. Can't be bothered with all that petty points scoring. Support politicians whose policies you agree with, regardless of their party.

who said i was ?
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,644
Just far enough away from LDC
Yeah, I did think of Stella Creasy as an option and Angela Rayner has done well but Labour does seem to have a problem with women. There have been some excellent Labour women who have got nowhere near the leadership

And I've long thought that Corbyn would stand down for the GE but I admit that I have absolutely nothing to justify that belief, just a hunch

Stella creasy is being threatened with deselection
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,644
Just far enough away from LDC
Angela Rayner's star is definitely in the ascendancy and she seems to hit the right note with a lot of people. Jess Phillips would make a good deputy. I like her a lot, she's gobby, opinionated but speaks from the heart, she has appeal outside her party and she's fearless. She has the makings of another Prescott and his part in the rise of the Labour Party especially in the 90s/early 00s has been largely forgotten. Phillips doesn't have the temperament to be leader but would be a great deputy.

Didn't Angela Rayner send a 'do you know who I am' type letter on house of commons note paper to a shoe shop in brighton?

Ah indeed she did

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8509120
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,648
Eastbourne
Wow, has your left testicle been an mp for thirty years as well?
Corbyn is very electable, he has been elected to parliament for 30 years. Where has the unelectable bit come from?
I think the inference is that Corbyn will not lead the party to win a general election. But then, you probably knew that.
 








Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Wow, has your left testicle been an mp for thirty years as well?
Corbyn is very electable, he has been elected to parliament for 30 years. Where has the unelectable bit come from?

That's because he's in a constituency that's been Labour held since 1937 with a changing demographic that has cemented it as a rock-solid safe seat. Admittedly, Corbyn's radical politics does also add value given the kind of people that live in his part of London but if you stuck a red rosette on a fish finger it would win Islington North. It's the same with Nicholas Soames. You couldn't meet a more objectionable person yet the voters of Mid Sussex vote him in election after election.

He has a narrow range of appeal and it certainly isn't going to attract floating voters, disillusioned centrist Tories, Basildon Man, Worcester Woman or Scottish Nationalists - all of whom he will need to win the next election.
 


Brian Fantana

Well-known member
Oct 8, 2006
7,512
In the field
I've seen McDonnell wants to re-nationalise the railways and Royal Mail. In practice, how would this work? Presumably shareholders would be well within their rights to refuse any offers made for their shares?
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,648
Eastbourne
It is the only one that matters when talking about Corbyn's electability. The rest of the country do not vote for Corbyn.
That's a strange view in my opinion. Of course he's electable to his own constituents. They are in a more left wing area than most. But, put him elsewhere and he may have more trouble. People will ALWAYS examine the leadership ability of a potential prime minister/president, that's why there are debates. Corbyn, in my opinion and also in the majority of the countries opinion, does not inspire confidence. So I am sorry, the rest of the country DO vote for Corbyn or against Corbyn indirectly when there is a general election.
 






1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
But he has been elected at a general election for 30 years! I do not understand your, and many others, statement.
Put simply the bit people miss out when they say Corbyn is unelectable is 'as Prime Minister'.

So they really mean 'Corbyn is unelectable as Prime Minister' but shorten this to 'Corbyn is unelectable'.
 


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