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[News] Johnson’s fumbling and lying could be about to get very dangerous indeed…



The Clamp

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LONDON — Boris Johnson is incapable of providing leadership during “the most serious security crisis since the Cold War” as Russian troops amass on the border with Ukraine, according to the U.K.’s opposition Labour Party.

In an interview with POLITICO following a visit to Kyiv, Labour’s Shadow Defence Secretary John Healey took aim at the embattled U.K. prime minister as Johnson fights anger in his own party over claims of lockdown-breaching parties in government.

Healey said it was an “embarrassment” that “with Europe facing the most serious security crisis since the Cold War, Britain has a non-functioning prime minister.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-labour-says-boris-johnson-incapable-of-leading-in-ukraine-crisis/

Regardless of political point scoring, he's right. Now, there are many who because they haven't perceived the recent actions of Boris Johnson as directly affecting them, see him still as the bumbling but likeable chap who "got Brexit done and delivered the best vaccine roll-out in the world". In the world Ladies and Gentlemen. As he so often mentions.

But this is serious business. Nuclear powers are squaring up to each other. Threats are being made from all sides. The very last thing we need is a mop of blonde nonsense with a "Let the bodies pile high" attitude.
 
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You do bloody realise that going to war is not the PMs decision,.... !??...

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Nobody has even remotely suggested that. However, you are wrong;


“ In the United Kingdom, the monarch is the Head of the Armed Forces and the decision to deploy the armed forces in situations of armed conflict is currently a prerogative power.Constitutional convention requires that, in the event of a commitment of the armed forces to military action, authorisation is given by the Prime Minister, on behalf of the Crown. Decisions on military action are taken within the Cabinet with advice. The Defence Council has power of command over members of the armed forces.” Gov.U.K.

Why can the prime minister still take Britain to war without a parliamentary vote?
The UK parliament is one of the weakest in the democratic world on military action: no vote or even notification is required.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...l-take-britain-war-without-parliamentary-vote

If you read the article in the OP you’ll see that the concern is Johnson’s involvement in negotiation and war-meetings. No.10 is trying to create a reality where Boris is a Churchillian figure heading up the allies against Russia.
This is not a time to be pushing his personal fantasies and agenda. War is not something to be played at.
 
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rogersix

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The West is so weak and divided. It’s exactly what Russia and China have been working towards. Interfering in elections, exploiting our weakness after Brexit. This has been a long game and the two supposedly most powerful leaders in the West are both absolute wrecks.
This is what it’s been leading up to. Or the start of it.

they play chess, we play chequers
 




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What….

Like a certain Tony Blair……


Let’s be honest both sides of the political spectrum are shite, now and then, they don’t give a shite about you or me….
Self preservation society….

Don’t take sides, their both shite….

This is purely in the context of the current situation and possible war. And the fact that Johnson is casting himself as a latter day Churchill and making out he is heading up the Allied forces. That is dangerous.
 


portlock seagull

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You do bloody realise that going to war is not the PMs decision,.... !??...

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My comment wasn’t about that, your interpretation mistake :)
 














beorhthelm

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with a German general channeling Ribbentrop, denying NATO members supply ordnance to Ukraine, Macron suggesting going on without US, seems weak comments from Johnson are the least of worries. just sunday paper filler, nothing more than other countries, talking lots with no real solution because no one has one.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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The West is so weak and divided. It’s exactly what Russia and China have been working towards. Interfering in elections, exploiting our weakness after Brexit. This has been a long game and the two supposedly most powerful leaders in the West are both absolute wrecks.
This is what it’s been leading up to. Or the start of it.

Russia probably couldn't believe their luck over Brexit, the UK voting to weaken itself and the EU simultaneously with only a minimum amount of investment and effort from Moscow. Their next target will be the break-up of the UK and the consequent loss of our status as a permanent member of the UN security council.
 


vegster

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it's standard practice for a second rate leader to try to look strong and powerful on the world stage. He's just a blonde version of Kim Jong-Un... But, don't expect any real input from Johnson, he does not do details as we all know now and I'm sure Mr Putin has plenty of kompromat on Johnson in case he needs it.

Besides, the Russians have been running and funding the Tory party for years now so he won't jeopardise his income stream.

A man that can't recognise a party when he's at one, has been described as " Un Clown " by the French President and didn't know that his " Oven Ready " Brexit deal would be inedible is not going to unite the West against a trained psychopath.
 






Swansman

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Plus he’s wrong. It is the PM’s decision to go to war.

If Boris Johnson would even consider declaring war on Russia I think someone working with the security of your (or any other) nation would slip something unhealthy in his workday wine bottle...

While it is a permanent dream for the West to invade and colonise Russia and rob it of all its resources and permanently enslave their population, like in parts of Asia and Africa, none of the big Western countries have actually been dumb enough to attempt it in modern times and I doubt this will change anytime soon.
 


knocky1

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Plus he’s wrong. It is the PM’s decision to go to war.

Even if it wasn’t PM’s decision that wouldn’t stop no rules Boris.
The Russian crooks and Oligarchs who payroll him and his Party must be giving a bit of pressure on him to join in.
No wonder he has sent the Royal Navy to the English Channel to protect our shores from NATO.
 








nicko31

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Perhaps Bojo's hard man tough talk on Russia might be taken more seriously if he hadn't sold himself in 'As Oligarchs For Tennis?' Not to mention the cover of their role in the Brexit referendum
 


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