In here (those for us anyway)I now need to see a highlights reel of all hs penalties to confirm what I'm thinking
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[Albion] João Pedro's Penalties to end 2023
- Thread starter Papa Lazarou
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- Jul 10, 2003
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That's the most detailed breakdown I have heard. Don't know if it's the best but with the hips..., sorry Forest just scored, lost my train of thought
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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That's the most detailed breakdown I have heard. Don't know if it's the best but with the hips..., sorry Forest just scored, lost my train of thought
i do have to keep checking the table 
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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This is one thing he 100% doesn’t do!
I think he looks at one position before he takes it then puts it the other way.
Luton h seemed the only time the technique was different.
He def does not look where the keeper dives at all.
Not a chance. He strokes it in calmly knowing the keeper has gone the wrong way. He's certainly not relying on the keeper being tricked by him looking at the other corner.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Look at his head he is looking purely at the ball - not the keeper…
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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he must do to send him the wrong way 7 out of 8 times
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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i think his head is down but his eyes are up, so to speak!
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Can’t see it…
It’s baffling but has to be the eyes at the start or the run up - whatever it is it works…
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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he's deffo looking at the ball as his kicking foot comes forward, but just before that? i don't know, but neither do the goalies!
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Would love to know as I always assumed it was that but can’t see any head movement - either eye swivel or eyes before he takes it. It’s odd but works.
Cotton Socks
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- Feb 20, 2017
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In my uniformed opinion (but I've said it before) he looks at the keeper, doesn't look at the ball until he's done his shimmy and then smacks it before the keeper moves. He probably looks at the keeper, looks at a point at the net & repeats a couple of times so that the keeper thinks he's going to put it at the place he looks at. He does eyeball the keeper a lot though and just does small eye glances to where he's not going to put it. Basically proper mind games, even if a keeper does realise that he isn't going to put it where he's pretending to look at, there's still a lot of places where he can put it. difficult for a keeper to be in all those potential places at once. I am now at the point that I said to Jnr on Thur, on our 1st pen that the law of averages must come into play. It didn't so I think it's witchcraft.
Watch his foot when he makes contact though. When he goes bottom left, it's a late swivel of the boot.
One thing's for sure; he's deceiving the keeper in some way.
Papa Lazarou
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Always. Once at our home and once at their home.
GT49er
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Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I don't think he does this unless it's a very subtle last minute thing that doesn't get picked up by the cameras. As far as I can tell he looks to his left/the keepers right and then places it in either corner.
The fact that he sends the keeper the wrong way so often must mean he does something to trick him as he doesn't appear to look at the keeper when he's taking it.
We need someone to do a proper forensic breakdown of his technique, body position, movement and eyes.
- Apr 19, 2018
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I agree he must be doing something or just with averages we'd expect the keeper to guess right more frequently. There's that thing about how elite tennis serving is impossibly fast to react to - brains and bodies can't process and respond that fast. So players are reading and responding to racket and body and foot position and other signs before the ball is hit and can instinctively through practice pre-empt speed and where it'll bounce and how high and with what spin etc (there's a fun anecdote about how Agassi learned to read Becker's serves by seeing where his tongue was before he served). I wonder if this is something similar and he can fool a goalkeepers reading of him that works for almost every other player? More subtle than most of us would ever pick up, or necessarily be able to pick up from our or the camera view.
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It must be a very difficult one to establish or else surely the word would be out....
banjo
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Can England hire him to train our players how to take a pen ahead of the Euros.