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Herr Tubthumper

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drew

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I'm not sure I totally agree with this.

I agree. If a higher majority of the electorate vote for left wing parties but the vote is split over several different parties but a small percentage vote for only a couple of right wing parties but the bigger of the two has slighlty more seats than the largest of the left wing parties then surely the legitimate government is the one with the lions share of the vote, ie the left wing. The problem with Clegg is that he is far more a tory than he will ever be a socialist so that comes out in his comments.
 


Hatterlovesbrighton

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Jul 28, 2003
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I agree. If a higher majority of the electorate vote for left wing parties but the vote is split over several different parties but a small percentage vote for only a couple of right wing parties but the bigger of the two has slighlty more seats than the largest of the left wing parties then surely the legitimate government is the one with the lions share of the vote, ie the left wing. The problem with Clegg is that he is far more a tory than he will ever be a socialist so that comes out in his comments.

Congratulations. You win today's award for the longest sentence known to man.
 








peterward

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Just when things can't get any worse today I get the local Tory candidate knocking on my front door

"Sorry mate i dont do record jobs, poor paying less tax or responsible government, i'm a high tax, high debt, Ed Balls economics for idiots sort of a guy"
 




glasfryn

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Nov 29, 2005
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Just when things can't get any worse today I get the local Tory candidate knocking on my front door

I have had them all calling, and take all there bumph, especially the tory stuff and there is loads of it, shred it all for cat litter, watching Cameron's face go through the shredder is almost and I say almost orgasmic :rotlf:
 






peterward

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One bright spot tonight [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION]

Latest YouGov poll (24 - 25 Apr):
LAB - 34% (-1)
CON - 32% (-1)
UKIP - 14% (+1)
LDEM - 9% (+1)
GRN - 6% (-)

Do you know youguv is online polling..... Most of the polls where labour are ahead by a point or two are online polls, most of the polling houses that show torys ahead by a point or 2 are telephone. In general telephone polling has been more accuarate than online in last 2 General elections, in euro elections and scottish referendum. The one exception was last London mayoral election where online polling was more accuarate.

That said all these 1-2% polls are within 3% margin of error... So it's still as clear as mud.
 


beorhthelm

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That said all these 1-2% polls are within 3% margin of error... So it's still as clear as mud.

reading something the other day from a pollster that said they are within 3% for 95% of the time. so in 5 in every 100 scenarios they are outside the 3% margin.
 






Hampster Gull

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Good of Clegg to make clear his position. No UKIP and SNP. Weakens Labours position but still the right call. They have done a reasonable job with the conservatives, such at no income tax for the lower paid. I would personally remove NI paid below that level as well and grow no tax to £12k pa.Lets hope they can keep upthe good work together
 






Herr Tubthumper

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One bright spot tonight [MENTION=409]Herr Tubthumper[/MENTION]

Latest YouGov poll (24 - 25 Apr):
LAB - 34% (-1)
CON - 32% (-1)
UKIP - 14% (+1)
LDEM - 9% (+1)
GRN - 6% (-)

Oh dear, poor old Dave. I reckon he'll also be disappointed by West Ham's measly draw with QPR.
 


peterward

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from BBC:

Sir Charles Dunstone, the chairman of Carphone Warehouse and a former supporter of new Labour, suggested that an Ed Miliband victory would put the UK's economic recovery under threat.

he said: "I really felt I had to speak out as our economic recovery truly hangs in the balance.

"For me the choice is clear. And it is not a choice between backing business on the one hand and promoting fairness on the other. There is nothing progressive about attacking business and undermining our economy.

"If the economy fails, frankly it is not the richest who suffer, it's the poorest.

"It would be a huge and tragic irony if well-meaning people ended up hurting the most deprived in our country. But that is what I fear would happen with a Labour-SNP government - one that is anti-business, anti-aspiration and pro-spending money we haven't even earned yet."
 


peterward

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All three GB voting intention polls in today’s papers – YouGov, Opinium and Survation. Topline figures for all three are below:

YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 32%, LAB 34%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%
Opinium/Observer – CON 34%, LAB 33%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%, GRN 6% (tabs)
Survation/Mail on Sunday – CON 33%, LAB 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 18%, GRN 4%
 


Herr Tubthumper

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from BBC:

Sir Charles Dunstone, the chairman of Carphone Warehouse and a former supporter of new Labour, suggested that an Ed Miliband victory would put the UK's economic recovery under threat.

he said: "I really felt I had to speak out as our economic recovery truly hangs in the balance.

"For me the choice is clear. And it is not a choice between backing business on the one hand and promoting fairness on the other. There is nothing progressive about attacking business and undermining our economy.

"If the economy fails, frankly it is not the richest who suffer, it's the poorest.

"It would be a huge and tragic irony if well-meaning people ended up hurting the most deprived in our country. But that is what I fear would happen with a Labour-SNP government - one that is anti-business, anti-aspiration and pro-spending money we haven't even earned yet."

When a multimillionaire Tory with a raft of low-paid workers in his empire and with many on 6-hour contracts is getting twitchy you know Ed is doing the right thing.
 




peterward

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When a multimillionaire Tory with a raft of low-paid workers in his empire and with many on 6-hour contracts is getting twitchy you know Ed is doing the right thing.

You really buy into this class warfare, bash the rich bollox don't you? I'm not well off a regular worker, but I'm also not blinded by the politics of envy. His statement is common sense, the economy will be ruined under labour's plans, held hostage by the SNP, they will stop growth, recovery will end, productive job creation will stop. Debt will rise, that has to be paid by someone some day as well as interest today, taxes on poorest will rise. Interventions in free markets are a disaster and when the well meaning policy's end in a ruined economy with massive debt and deficit, everyone including the poorest suffer and cuts are an inevitable consequence of mismanagement. Industry creates jobs not governments. I don't have anything against labour's social policy's, but rich bashing, interventionist politics doesn't benefit the country. only labour ideologues
 


Seagull on the wing

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When a multimillionaire Tory with a raft of low-paid workers in his empire and with many on 6-hour contracts is getting twitchy you know Ed is doing the right thing.
That MIGHT be true...so what is the answer ? Tax the tory to high heaven which makes him withdraw his company overseas and throws those who have work on the dole...the left want to destroy Murdoch empire...yet he has many thoundsands on his employment rota...would you want to throw them out of work as well...is it just a Labour thing that wants to destroy the Golden Goose.
By your politics of envy every Tory is rich and the working class are poor...tell that to Labour millionaires...
Doesn't matter where you go in the world someone will always be richer than others...get over it,make youy self richer.
What is your definition of poor...Family up the road from me have 2 widescreen teles,the four kids have an X box,all have iPhones,they keep four dogs,,they smoke,have crates of beer in,been raided for drugs and yet claim food parcels,never done a days work,are a constant drain on society whilst the millionaires company is paying thousands into the system.
 


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