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[JC Footy Genius]

Wasn't that long ago that Jezza sacked Sarah Champion from his shadow cabinet when she had the affront to speak out against the mass rape of children in her constituency .

Sums up the morality (lack of ?) of the current Labour leadership and their apologists/supporters.

 

[BensGrandad]

Just thinking how attitudes have changed over the years. Putting your hands on a girls leg is now considered a sexual assault when I was a teenager that was the start to see how far you could go before she said No. It was a usual chat piece amongst boys at school as to how far did you get, cant remember what they were now but we had numbers for each progression from upstairs outside. Not saying that was right but it was just a growing up process. Girls came to accept it and most stopped a boy at the stage that she wanted to.

 

[Titanic]

Just thinking how attitudes have changed over the years. Putting your hands on a girls leg is now considered a sexual assault when I was a teenager that was the start to see how far you could go before she said No. It was a usual chat piece amongst boys at school as to how far did you get, cant remember what they were now but we had numbers for each progression from upstairs outside. Not saying that was right but it was just a growing up process. Girls came to accept it and most stopped a boy at the stage that she wanted to.

But this isn't about girls and boys, it is about people abusing their positions of power.

 

[Gwylan]

Wasn't that long ago that Jezza sacked Sarah Champion from his shadow cabinet when she had the affront to speak out against the mass rape of children in her constituency .

That's not true, it wasn't speaking out against mass rape that caused the problem. She was sacked for putting her name to an article in The Sun that claimed Britain had a problem with Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls. It was an article that she herself disowned but was forced to resign when it was revealed that a member of her own team had signed it off.

Even then, she may have got away with a warning but the Sun hadn't stirred things up by publishing a more virulent piece, naming her as a supporter of anti-Muslim policies. This subsequent article was attacked by several Labour MPs, Jewish and Muslim groups and even some Conservative politicians - it was this article that was the final straw.

 

[carlzeiss]

That's not true, it wasn't speaking out against mass rape that caused the problem. She was sacked for putting her name to an article in The Sun that claimed Britain had a problem with Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls. It was an article that she herself disowned but was forced to resign when it was revealed that a member of her own team had signed it off.

Even then, she may have got away with a warning but the Sun hadn't stirred things up by publishing a more virulent piece, naming her as a supporter of anti-Muslim policies. This subsequent article was attacked by several Labour MPs, Jewish and Muslim groups and even some Conservative politicians - it was this article that was the final straw.

I see , no problems then , thanks for putting me straight .

 

[Two Professors]

That's not true, it wasn't speaking out against mass rape that caused the problem. She was sacked for putting her name to an article in The Sun that claimed Britain had a problem with Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls. It was an article that she herself disowned but was forced to resign when it was revealed that a member of her own team had signed it off.

Even then, she may have got away with a warning but the Sun hadn't stirred things up by publishing a more virulent piece, naming her as a supporter of anti-Muslim policies. This subsequent article was attacked by several Labour MPs, Jewish and Muslim groups and even some Conservative politicians - it was this article that was the final straw.

Keep re-writing history until it agrees with the Party view-yeah,right.

 

[Ernest]

Footage on the Beeb of Jezza refusing to answer reasonable questions about what and when he knew about Kelvin Hopkins... #awkward

I'd rather they were on (not so) Priti Patel's doorstep asking her what she was up to in Israel ?

 

[Titanic]

I'd rather they were on (not so) Priti Patel's doorstep asking her what she was up to in Israel ?

Anything to avoid answering awkward questions, eh?

 

[carlzeiss]

I'd rather they were on (not so) Priti Patel's doorstep asking her what she was up to in Israel ?

Of course you would

 

[BensGrandad]

But this isn't about girls and boys, it is about people abusing their positions of power.

I realize that but was passing comment on how the sexual assault attitude has changed what is now classed as that wasnt years ago. Abusing a position of power always has been and always will be a problem there being nothing that will ever change it, we must just hope that the offenders can be caught and dealt with.

 

[Gwylan]

Keep re-writing history until it agrees with the Party view-yeah,right.

Rather boringly, I tend to stick with facts

You're obviously the one who likes re-writing history

 

[Your Mum]

Rather boringly, I tend to stick with

...your mum

You're obviously the one who likes

...your mum

 

[Two Professors]

Rather boringly, I tend to stick with facts

You're obviously the one who likes re-writing history

Are the BBC telling porkies then?

 

[Gwylan]

Are the BBC telling porkies then?

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Er... that article supports what I said, not what Carl Zeiss said

 

[carlzeiss]

Er... that article supports what I said, not what Carl Zeiss said

No mention of Pakistani men in my post .

 

[Two Professors]

Er... that article supports what I said, not what Carl Zeiss said

Er...no it doesn't.You implied that she didn't write the article-it had been signed off by a staffer.

 

[carlzeiss]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...nt-party-conference-2017-latest-a8036446.html

 

[JC Footy Genius]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...nt-party-conference-2017-latest-a8036446.html

Not going well for the OP ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...igns-after-shocking-allegations-a8036011.html

 

[Ernest]

Looks like one set of allegations is not as clear cut as she made out on her TV interviews today....

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[Ernest]

An ultra Blairite , I wonder what her motive may be