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RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,500
Vacationland
For those who believe dogmatically that the NHS has to be the only way to provide health service then you may be right. I beleive the key is people get a great free at point of use service and that it can be provided much cheaper. The NHS will be at the core of either in our lifetime

It's pragmatic, not dogmatic.

There isn't a cheaper model, except by turning into Mexico.
You're already getting better-than-OECD average outcomes with lower-than-average OECD expenditures.
How are you going to make it cheaper still?
 




Northstandite

New member
Jun 6, 2011
1,260
Lets hope you stay healthy and wealthy for the next five years then, and that the imminent swingeing austerity measures only affect people that aren't you :thumbsup:

Your Labour friends linked up with private finance providers from 1997 to 2010, in PFI and PPP deals, that have saddled NHS trusts with £80b of debt, that requires real cash flow out of hospital budgets. That's hard cash that could be paying for extra nurses, life-saving drugs, pay rises for NHS front line staff, reducing waiting lists. Labour supporting The Independent, The Guardian and The New Statesmen have some excellent articles that cover this very clearly. The Guardian estimates that the total cost of those Labour blunders could be 12x the cost of the capital outlay in new buildings or the like built and £300b. Imagine the compound interest rate on those figures. Respected Labour MP and Select Committee member Margaret Hodge is honest and calls it scandellous.

These shocking facts, put wild speculation about the 'evil' Tories and the NHS, into perspective.
 




Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
64,379
Withdean area
Your Labour friends linked up with private finance providers from 1997 to 2010, in PFI and PPP deals, that have saddled NHS trusts with £80b of debt, that requires real cash flow out of hospital budgets. That's hard cash that could be paying for extra nurses, life-saving drugs, pay rises for NHS front line staff, reducing waiting lists. Labour supporting The Independent, The Guardian and The New Statesmen have some excellent articles that cover this very clearly. The Guardian estimates that the total cost of those Labour blunders could be 12x the cost of the capital outlay in new buildings or the like built and £300b. Imagine the compound interest rate on those figures. Respected Labour MP and Select Committee member Margaret Hodge is honest and calls it scandellous.

These shocking facts, put wild speculation about the 'evil' Tories and the NHS, into perspective.

Sssshhhh. The bitter losers today, didn't know that Blair//Brown/Balls have cost the NHS in £300b hard cash in these mistakes.
 


RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,500
Vacationland
Dogmatic, as is often the case with socailists

I consider paying less, and getting more, to be the very essence of capitalist....

Now, paying more, and getting less, to satisfy an ideological itch to privatize -- that's dogmatic.
 




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