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[News] Do you pay more than the basic rate of Income Tax?

Do you pay a higher rate of Income Tax?

  • Yes

    Votes: 61 56.0%
  • No

    Votes: 48 44.0%

  • Total voters
    109
  • Poll closed .






schmunk

"Members"
Jan 19, 2018
9,589
Mid mid mid Sussex
I earnt slightly more than bugger all running my own business, virtually nothing in income tax. . . but always paid my NI, as a matter of principal

tax dodging is bad but swerving NI contributions should see you left in the gutter.

Indeed - I'm not advocating it, just stating what the dodgy "contractors" do and why IR35 has been much more heavily policed recently.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,960
Worthing
I paid tax once and didn’t like it so I don’t bother now
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,030
Living In a Box
Not since retiring
 
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Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,548
Brighton
No, not a Monopoly question, do you earn over the HMRC threshold for an increased rate of income tax?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61996117

Higher rate taxpayers paying 40% earn £43,663 or over in Scotland and £50,271 in England, Northern Ireland and Wales. They do not pay tax on the first £12,570 of earnings covered by the personal allowance.

No. Because my money is all offshore in tax havens.


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The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
NSC Patron
Aug 7, 2003
7,832
If you are operating through a Personal Service Company, normally:
  • you pay yourself a minimal wage as an employee (just enough to kiss the bottom of the NI threshold, but not actually pay any NI) - this is your £8k.
  • The balance of company profit is subject to Corp Tax at 19%.
  • Dividends can then be paid out to you from this taxed profit.
  • You pay personal income tax, but not NI, on the distributed dividends. Anything over £2,000 needs to be reported on a tax return.

You’re absolutely right, but I’m not an accountant, so that’s why I pay him £3k a year in fees. When I was PAYE, I had a massively negative tax code, through having two company cars, Health cover and other benefits and also paid income tax at 50%. I’m now a part time consultant and take home the same nett income on half the full time income I used to earn.
 


schmunk

"Members"
Jan 19, 2018
9,589
Mid mid mid Sussex
You’re absolutely right, but I’m not an accountant, so that’s why I pay him £3k a year in fees. When I was PAYE, I had a massively negative tax code, through having two company cars, Health cover and other benefits and also paid income tax at 50%. I’m now a part time consultant and take home the same nett income on half the full time income I used to earn.

Net cash, presumably?

Like-for-like you'd need to add back the cars, health care and other benefits, plus £3k.


(N.B. the 50% top tax rate ended in April 2013, but I get your point.)
 


The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
NSC Patron
Aug 7, 2003
7,832
Net cash, presumably?

Like-for-like you'd need to add back the cars, health care and other benefits, plus £3k.


(N.B. the 50% top tax rate ended in April 2013, but I get your point.)

That’s true, I now pay £4k a year for private healthcare plus my accountants fees. I still have the cars which cost me nothing, but now have to maintain. I sold my shares in my company in 2014, so may have benefited from a lower tax rate in the final year.
 






Sorrel

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,768
Back in East Sussex
Our current tax system has plenty of annoying grab backs that end up with some people paying an even higher rate of tax than the 40% or 45%. Things like:
- Frozen thresholds (worse in Scotland)
- Child Benefit grab back between £50,000 to £60,000
- Personal allowance removal between £100,000 and £125,000
- Pension lifetime allowance reduction over the last ten years
- Tapered pension allowance, down to zero, for those over £200,000 (so tax is paid on pension contributions over £4,000 at least).

I would guess a lot of people don't care as they don't think they will affect them, but the first item - the frozen thresholds - is starting to affect more people each year and as inflation increases the above will be catching an increasing number of people.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,927
Our current tax system has plenty of annoying grab backs that end up with some people paying an even higher rate of tax than the 40% or 45%. Things like:
- Frozen thresholds (worse in Scotland)
- Child Benefit grab back between £50,000 to £60,000
- Personal allowance removal between £100,000 and £125,000
- Pension lifetime allowance reduction over the last ten years
- Tapered pension allowance, down to zero, for those over £200,000 (so tax is paid on pension contributions over £4,000 at least).

I would guess a lot of people don't care as they don't think they will affect them, but the first item - the frozen thresholds - is starting to affect more people each year and as inflation increases the above will be catching an increasing number of people.

I'm fine, as I earn **** all I pay **** all...Sorted.
 






hampshirebrightonboy

Well-known member
Sep 3, 2011
976
Our current tax system has plenty of annoying grab backs that end up with some people paying an even higher rate of tax than the 40% or 45%. Things like:
- Frozen thresholds (worse in Scotland)
- Child Benefit grab back between £50,000 to £60,000
- Personal allowance removal between £100,000 and £125,000
- Pension lifetime allowance reduction over the last ten years
- Tapered pension allowance, down to zero, for those over £200,000 (so tax is paid on pension contributions over £4,000 at least).

I would guess a lot of people don't care as they don't think they will affect them, but the first item - the frozen thresholds - is starting to affect more people each year and as inflation increases the above will be catching an increasing number of people.

Yes - The headline tax rate is becoming more and more irrelevant. We are moving to a high tax country.
 


DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
16,660
As a pensioner I don’t. As a pensioner Mrs DiS does……. But she hasn’t voted.
 




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