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Surf's Up

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
10,197
Here
Jezza loves the Honey Badger - come on you Corbynistas, you know it makes sense!!
 


Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,151
But I thought flocks of old socialists and young Uni types were joining Labour my the MASSES?

What happened? ???

The pollsters aren't talking to them
 


Dec 29, 2011
8,030
Well, he's probably quite correct.Typical that people blame the Chinees for flooding the market with cheap steel then when The Wonderful Mr Trump blames them for taking American jobs, people ridicule him for saying it. Please make up your mind.

Are you on a wind up? If he cared so much about foreign competition why does he produce his products in a foreign country? Surely he should produce them in America if he cares so much about American jobs.
 








Honky Tonx

New member
Jun 9, 2014
872
Lewes
Are you on a wind up? If he cared so much about foreign competition why does he produce his products in a foreign country? Surely he should produce them in America if he cares so much about American jobs.

I'm sure that you must realise that when he say that Mexicans are taking American jobs he is referring to certain jobs, in the service industry for instance. Virtually every major Industrial Nation uses another country to manufacture their products.Take Nissan and TaTa in this country for instance. It still makes money for the country from where that company comes from. I'm sure people would complain if a Government did not encourage foreign investment.
 




Dec 29, 2011
8,030
I'm sure that you must realise that when he say that Mexicans are taking American jobs he is referring to certain jobs, in the service industry for instance. Virtually every major Industrial Nation uses another country to manufacture their products.Take Nissan and TaTa in this country for instance. It still makes money for the country from where that company comes from. I'm sure people would complain if a Government did not encourage foreign investment.

That is an assumption on your behalf, but I think he meant manufacturing jobs in Mexico or he wouldn't have mentioned China in the same sentence. I don't see many Chinese going to the US to take up jobs in the service sector.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ast-bring-jobs-back-china-gets-dump/?page=all

A source for you.
 


Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,832
Back in Sussex
When even Murdoch ACCUSES you of being STUPID I don't think it is the time for any GLOATING

You were cruelly exposed, politically, last time round when you repeatedly shouted down any word of Conservative strength.

Even on election day, in that delicious moment when the BBC's exit poll announced the return of a majority Conservative government, you struggled to find word that it wouldn't be so. And you looked ridiculous. And you went quiet. What a time to be alive.

You have no credibility at all. You are the soccer sauce of politics.

I'm happy to pull back quote after quote after ****ing glorious quote to illustrate it, if that is required. And I think we all know it's not.

In short: pipe down.
 


Honky Tonx

New member
Jun 9, 2014
872
Lewes






driller

my life my word
Oct 14, 2006
2,873
The posh bit
When even Murdoch ACCUSES you of being STUPID I don't think it is the time for any GLOATING

You were cruelly exposed, politically, last time round when you repeatedly shouted down any word of Conservative strength.

Even on election day, in that delicious moment when the BBC's exit poll announced the return of a majority Conservative government, you struggled to find word that it wouldn't be so. And you looked ridiculous. And you went quiet. What a time to be alive.

You have no credibility at all. You are the soccer sauce of politics.

I'm happy to pull back quote after quote after ****ing glorious quote to illustrate it, if that is required. And I think we all know it's not.

In short: pipe down.

Earnest owned.

Splendid stuff.
 


jackanada

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2011
3,164
Brighton
Still the worst government in a century. Possibly more but my history gets hazy after that.
 






Dick Swiveller

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2011
9,165
Michael Foot all over again. Hard core labour fans get the man they want who is too left wing to get the party elected. And Clegg's toadying wiped out any remaining credible opposition. Leaving the Tories free to lurch to the right with no-one to stop them. A good time to be well off. Poor? Not so much.
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
Michael Foot all over again. Hard core labour fans get the man they want who is too left wing to get the party elected. And Clegg's toadying wiped out any remaining credible opposition. Leaving the Tories free to lurch to the right with no-one to stop them. A good time to be well off. Poor? Not so much.

You just beat me to it Dick. Whilst Cameron isn't as right wing as Thatcher. We need an affective opposition to keep the government in check (whoever is in power).
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
what would be wrong if trump ends up as President anyway?

Nothing if you thought the chancellor of Germany was a "Good Egg" in the 30s.
 




Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,222
Goldstone
The nightmare scenario - Jeremy Corbin PM of UK and Donald Trump President of USA.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall at their first meeting after they come to power!
Trump would swot you with his wig.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,240
Just far enough away from LDC
What we now have is a labour party high on ideals but no intention to appeal to the electorate they require to win an election.

I could kind of understand if the leaders were geordie, scouse or Yorkshire socialists with a history of an impoverished background, but these aren't. They're north London, fairly wealthy background individuals.

Basically the lie that labour are fully responsible for the current financial conditions in this country went unchallenged for the last parliament and now has become a truism which the electorate will expect an apology for.

To win an election labour will need to demonstrate a sound economic plan with credibility. A thought out solution to health, housing and education, an honest approach to immigration and a defence policy that is robust.

What we have is a Chancellor who blows his big chance at budget statement time with a lame joke about a red book, nothing said on health housing and education, and half arsed comments about immigration with no clear narrative, before questionable comments about IS, middle East terror groups and some weird comments about nuclear subs without warheads. And don't get started on the codswallop about the Falklands.
 


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