[Misc] COVIDIOTS hot spots
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crodonilson
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The restrictions need to be tightened immediately, sure there will be some non complaince but some have compared to the speed limit where you know many will ignore the limit. Well if the limit was set at 40mph instead of 70mph on motorways sure there would be more non complaince but that would be people travelling at say 50mph and not at 80mph. Lets tighten the restrictions, close the loopholes and some of the unnecessary social bubbles and increase surveillance and penalties on non compliance.
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
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I was just coming on here to post the same thing. If you read one Twitter thread today it is this. In particular (but slightly taken out of context as you need to read it all)
[TWEET]1348771268460310529[/TWEET]
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I don't think we need to tighten as the curve appears to be going in the right direction, even though the effects of the lockdown won't be apparent yet.
Email from Saino’s boss.
I have spent a lot of time in our stores over the past few days and I need to ask for your help with two key issues to keep you and all my colleagues safe.
When shopping in our stores, you must wear a mask or visor unless you have a medical exemption. And you should also shop on your own. Thank you for your support.
Security guards will support our colleagues at the front of store and will challenge customers who are not wearing masks or who are shopping in groups. I know you’ll understand and support what we are trying to do.
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I have spent a lot of time in our stores over the past few days and I need to ask for your help with two key issues to keep you and all my colleagues safe.
When shopping in our stores, you must wear a mask or visor unless you have a medical exemption. And you should also shop on your own. Thank you for your support.
Security guards will support our colleagues at the front of store and will challenge customers who are not wearing masks or who are shopping in groups. I know you’ll understand and support what we are trying to do.
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crodonilson
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Is it going there fast enough though?? All I've seen so far is a slowdown in the growth but it's still growing, we need measures that get the R significantly below 1.
crodonilson
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The government should be enforcing that any medium to large sized supermarket has to have a security guard on the door to ensure compliance with one adult alone shopping and mask wearing and one covid marshal inside the store ensuring strict social distancing measures are enforced. If they can't do this they should be closed.
My takeaways -
Please read the Muge Cevik Twitter thread, if you want to get a balanced view on this subject.
Joggers, dog walkers idiots walking about talking on their mobile. None are a massive risk (see 20 times more likely to be infected indoors and prolonged exposure), ALL could do with showing a bit of common courtesy and consideration. There are plenty of quiet and isolated places to run. If your call is important stand f'ing still out of everyone else's way. Dog walkers tsk!
Please everyone will you stop punching down. There are too many people still facing no work no income. The government have to make it easier for these people to self-isolate, especially if they then live in crowded accomodation. Not everyone has a work from home option.
Looking back at December I see crowded shopping centres and people jam packed on escalators, followed by family Christmases. I think there was too much crowing over the coming vaccines, which is probably an easy thing to say with hindsight, but an awful lot of people let their guard down, which hasn't helped.
Please read the Muge Cevik Twitter thread, if you want to get a balanced view on this subject.
Joggers, dog walkers idiots walking about talking on their mobile. None are a massive risk (see 20 times more likely to be infected indoors and prolonged exposure), ALL could do with showing a bit of common courtesy and consideration. There are plenty of quiet and isolated places to run. If your call is important stand f'ing still out of everyone else's way. Dog walkers tsk!
Please everyone will you stop punching down. There are too many people still facing no work no income. The government have to make it easier for these people to self-isolate, especially if they then live in crowded accomodation. Not everyone has a work from home option.
Looking back at December I see crowded shopping centres and people jam packed on escalators, followed by family Christmases. I think there was too much crowing over the coming vaccines, which is probably an easy thing to say with hindsight, but an awful lot of people let their guard down, which hasn't helped.
BBassic
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- Jul 28, 2011
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It's the right move but seemingly won't be backed up by the Police:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-say-they-wont-enforce-masks-in-supermarkets
The problem is there are broadly two groups of people who won't wear masks...
1. Those who have a genuine exemption, and would likely have proof of that, and be polite and courteous.
2. Anti-mask wankers, who are spoiling for a fight. The "Don't have to wear one - got an exemption ain't I?" crowd. By way of coincidence, many of these are the aggressive sorts that, frankly, a minimum wage security guard, who is secure in name only, would not want to be challenging and mixing with. And I don't blame them.
Inside stores, one-way systems should be in place - they were removed far too readily from the two stores I use.
OK, I'll bite - as someone who falls into point 1 - how do I prove this given the government just say "download the form off .gov.co" - something anyone can do and my doctor has said they don't issue exemption certificates ( and haven't been authorised to do so ) ?
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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Could you wear a visor instead?
And based on my wife's experience the vast majority fall into category 2, and are a risk to her, and us as a family as they tend to scream in her face.
crodonilson
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Do you not have anyone else in your household or friends and family who can wear a mask who can do your shopping on your behalf, the risk goes two ways with mask wearing, and for those with medical exemptions I'd wager a high proportion of these are at higher risk of serious illness with covid and given the massive prevalence in the whole UK currently we shouldn't be shopping unless it is absolutely essential.
....those in [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] ‘s second group won’t bother to do it, so the distinction is clear.
My son’s GF is exempt but in places like supermarkets she’s still wearing one anyway - partly for protection or herself and others and partly to avoid the hassle/glares for not wearing one.
Supermarkets should ideally be able to flatly refuse entry (backed up by police if necessary) to non-wearers without exemptions, but understand the problems with trying to enforce this and the ensuing aggro that a few selfish arrogant morons will cause.
We’ve got a few ‘speed awareness’ police groups set up around Burgess Hill this morning checking traffic. I’d rather they put a copper on the door of each of the major supermarkets at this point in time.
I wasn't looking to provoke anyone.
I would imagine you printing the form off, and being polite and courteous in explaining your exemption will immediately set you apart from the problematic and antagonistic knobs.
Very much this. I had it early on and asked someone to put their mask on when trying to reach round me for something off a shelf and I got the dogs abuse.
Also in respect to security on doors at supermarkets all well and good but there's a large number that hoist them down once in the store. It's a no win for me ... a few cops dishing out on the spot fines might act as a deterrent but more likely to inflame and bring out the harassment/brutality brigade
You're mixing up those that are vulnerable ( i.e. those likely to catch the virus and die ) and those that are in the exempt categories for wearing a mask. The later doesn't mean you're vulnerable.
Agreed .... I wear a lanyard ... and while wearing it I've not been challenged ( in fact thanked by some shop assistants ). My problem is the mask shaming that still continues ..... it's like branding every football support a hooligan - and I'm sure we've all experienced that at some point - you know, lets just heard them all to the station, regardless of if they need a train or not. #benice