Bungling Brighton Boost Palace Promotion Hopes

[seagullsovergrimsby]

fair enough there mate ..just seen he's 39........... on a more interesting note that Habibou chap we were looking at has landed on loan at Dirty Filthy Leeds.

I believe he was actually purchased by the Leeds United hospitality and catering department who thought they were buying a consignment of sweets

 

[sydney]

Murray suddenly not getting a game for them now?

why not.....is he suspended ,injured or is he sulking cos actually villa , norwich or citeh didn't put an offer in for him...

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

He's gone on out loan, our choice, but he is still our player! How does that make him a Judas!?

He played for us and now went off to Palace !! Id ignore saying hes ours, the only reason it isnt a permanent transfer is the 3 club rule and the club have already said he will move there for good in the Summer.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

why not.....is he suspended ,injured or is he sulking cos actually villa , norwich or citeh didn't put an offer in for him...

Or better, sulking because Palace told him they wouldn't be selling him regardless

 

[CheeseRolls]

Should never have bought him in, that is the big mistake here.

Looks that way doesn't it. Seems reasonably effective scoring from around the edge of the box and clearly has a good shot on him.

The best comparison I can make is with Craig Davies, who we bought in and let go very quickly. You could see Davies had some skill and guile to his game, but couldn't hit the target for us. For Dobbie we have seen a couple of nice finishes, but nothing to suggest that his overall game is really adding anything to the team.

Not sure anyone has made this point, but it is worth considering team morale here. Footballers like everyone else expect their top earning colleagues to pull their weight. I don't suppose too many will be sorry to see him shipped out, given his wages to contribution ratio.

 

[severnside gull]

I think you are wrong. It is by no means certain that another club would have wanted to take on Dobbie and the liabilities that came with that. He clearly flattered to deceive and Gus has called time early. Palace are a club in the position to take advantage of this as they suddenly have cash flow. From what I have seen of Dobbie, I'm unconvinced that he will fare much better at Palace. Perhaps people are more sensitive to this move because it is Palace. Let's say he had gone to Charlton or Derby, would we be that bothered? Probably not.

A considerably more measured response than the WUM who started this thread. Tbh I assumed he was a palarse fan on a mission and just added him to my ignore list.

As an aside we can now see the picture of Dobbie in the Brighton & Hove Jobs ad in the matchday programme as a "come and get me" advert from the man himself.

Gus is right though - sometimes it just doesnt work for a player and a club. Dobbie is still a good footballer. He may well shine for palarse although I have reservations about their manager - he may just be choosing the wrong time to decide to do it his way. I can see them becoming increasingly inconsistant and I am beginning to fancy our chances of overtaking them. At the end of the day it is about what we do not them - with or without Dobbie/Murray et al.

 

[Bold Seagull]

why not.....is he suspended ,injured or is he sulking cos actually villa , norwich or citeh didn't put an offer in for him...

He's played all but 20mins of their last 10 league games.

But he's suddenly going to be dropped for a 39 year old and a player who has barely played this season and has 1 goal. Okay, lets hope so!

 

[StillHateBellotti]

I believe he was actually purchased by the Leeds United hospitality and catering department who thought they were buying a consignment of sweets

You just made me look a tit as I have spat tea everywhere in the office chuckling at that one!

 

[sydney]

He's played all but 20mins of their last 10 league games.

But he's suddenly going to be dropped for a 39 year old and a player who has barely played this season and has 1 goal. Okay, lets hope so!

are you looking for an argument or something.......why bring the players in.? they have both played for his teams before , he will be more aware than you or i as to what their capabilities are......wouldn't think he would drop the leagues top scorer for a 39 year old.........however , if they get to the play off stage they could prove to be very valuable.......

 

[Bigsul]

If it means our team contains the likes Bridge, Upson, Ulloa, Bruno, Spanish Dave, Vicente and Liam Bridcutt, then Palace are welcome to Dobbie. If I was a Palace fan, I would not be inspired by signing Dobbie & Phillips. We've got the potential to have a very exciting end to this season with the squad we've got now.

This AND he can't play against us AND he might score against others AND we might recoup funds potentially wasted on a fifth choice player. Shame it was Palarse but promotion is in our hands, not theirs.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Would those saying its a stupid move prefer us to have kept him, in the reserves and on a big wage, and not brought in a defender? I understand the sentiment of the OP but it's fuelled by rivalry rather than clarity. If he does well for palace it's irrelevant, what matters is how WE do. If our signings of ulloa and upson were to pay off and get us promoted, would it matter whether dobbie fired palace up too, or was a complete flop? Let's worry about our own squad and let palace worry about theirs.

This deserves quoting atleast once. It's exactly right.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

I thought this thread was going to be about Bungalow Bill Wiggins! Very disappointing.

 

[Sam-]

Probably done as a loan as there wasn't time for the full transfer. But we desperatly needed to get Dobbie off our wage budget. Still smarts.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Probably done as a loan as there wasn't time for the full transfer. But we desperatly needed to get Dobbie off our wage budget. Still smarts.

No, he was done as a loan, simply because its against FIFA rules to sign permanently for three clubs in one season.

 

[upthealbion1970]

Let palace pay a big chunk of his wages, can we recall him if he hits form and we get some injuries? Then sell him to someone else in the summer

 

[BensGrandad]

Hasn't he gone on loan for the season with a view to buy in the summer which would indicate that Poyet has given up on him and has other possible targets in mind for whatever position but to free up wages.

 

[Weststander]

Dobbie just isn't very good anymore.
No tears shed by Brighton fans. He was repeatedly put forward as one to get rid of Jan' and it's come to fruition.

 

[MJsGhost]

Would those saying its a stupid move prefer us to have kept him, in the reserves and on a big wage, and not brought in a defender? I understand the sentiment of the OP but it's fuelled by rivalry rather than clarity. If he does well for palace it's irrelevant, what matters is how WE do. If our signings of ulloa and upson were to pay off and get us promoted, would it matter whether dobbie fired palace up too, or was a complete flop? Let's worry about our own squad and let palace worry about theirs.

I agree 100% with this.

 

[tweenster]

I really can't be bothered to read through 5 pages of 'stuff', but my opinion is that if you have a very highly paid individual who cannot get close to the first team then from a business sense it makes absolute sense to offload them. It makes no difference who you offload them to because we believe they are not up to standard. Dobbie has not become 'shit' overnight, IMHO he is still a very good player and in the right team he can be an effective player. He just didn't work for us. If the only team that came in for him was Palace then so what? Thank you for your offer, we'll take your money and still overtake you because we ARE better than you.

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Would you rather have Upson in and lend them our 5th choice striker to clear his HUGE wages............ probably the equivelent of that Pettruci bloke at Man U going to City............. if he was on more than Rooney.............. exactly

OR have 1 fit CB but have Dobbie in the reserves while palarse signed some other striker (probably better than Dobbie) on loan?