[Politics] Brexit

[Hampster Gull]

Leave means Leave now arguing that food prices will get cheaper with Brexit? Flat screen TV prices will reduce by 40%, Trainer’s rescue by 30%, frozen chicken meat by 20%. Aren’t these the people who argued the negotiations would be the easiest ever.

Does anyone trust these clowns anymore, if you ever did?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Leave means Leave now arguing that food prices will get cheaper with Brexit? Flat screen TV prices will reduce by 40%, Trainer’s rescue by 30%, frozen chicken meat by 20%. Aren’t these the people who argued the negotiations would be the easiest ever.

Does anyone trust these clowns anymore, if you ever did?

Lie. Repeat. Lie. Repeat.

There are going to be increased logistic costs, and tariffs to pay. Shopping bills would rise, no question.

I presume the seed of this great proclamation is the idea that ONE food product might be cheaper, if some imagined but unproven trade deal with American Samoa or Kiribati gets thrashed out.

Kumquats, maybe.

 

[beorhthelm]

Lie. Repeat. Lie. Repeat.

There are going to be increased logistic costs, and tariffs to pay. Shopping bills would rise, no question.

I presume the seed of this great proclamation is the idea that ONE food product might be cheaper, if some imagined but unproven trade deal with American Samoa or Kiribati gets thrashed out.

Kumquats, maybe.

for sake of argument, why would logistics increase or tariffs be paid if we left the EU customs union and didnt pay EU tariffs on imported goods?

 

[Hampster Gull]

for sake of argument, why would logistics increase or tariffs be paid if we left the EU customs union and didnt pay EU tariffs on imported goods?

The premise from this grass is greener camp is that we can remove EU tariffs and prices drop. They need to acknowledge WTO also imposes tariffs. Let’s assume though for some products they are lower. At that point we are looking at tax cuts in the U.K. which means less funds for the NHS, schools and social services? And more immediate exposure for U.K. firms as rival products become cheaper so fewer jobs. But prices from the EU will become more expensive. And of course sterling drops significantly so prices rise. Long term it may be fine, short term it won’t be. I think the great leader Smogg said we can judge success in 50 years. Most of the current NSC users will be dead by then.

 

[Hampster Gull]

The House of Parliament is spending a day debating whether to release legal advice on the Brexit governments deal rather than debating the deal. They can’t even sort this out quickly. Weren’t we told this would all be easy?

 

[Two Professors]

More remoan fake news rebutted:

 

[beorhthelm]

More remoan fake news rebutted

which for balance, is bollocks too. we're going to suspend drug trials? dont think so.

 

[Two Professors]

which for balance, is bollocks too. we're going to suspend drug trials? dont think so.

But I prefer optimistic bollocks to moaning pessimistic bollocks!

 

[pb21]

More remoan fake news rebutted:

What remoan fake news has been rebutted?

 

[beorhthelm]

The premise from this grass is greener camp is that we can remove EU tariffs and prices drop. They need to acknowledge WTO also imposes tariffs. .

basic premise of WTO is setting the same tariffs across all members - it does not impose tariff. set tariff to zero as long as its same from Japan, US, Germany, thats fine.

 

[Hampster Gull]

which for balance, is bollocks too. we're going to suspend drug trials? dont think so.

Ffs, we are going to put the health of the nation at risk so that brexiteers can claim one success from this nonsense by suspending trails?!? Wasn’t the NHS funding lie at the core of their strategy? How quickly things change

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

The new Grieve amendment looks a goodun' - hope it gets selected for vote.


https://twitter.com/DomWalsh13/status/1069909091143876608?s=19

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Good. Withdraw it straight away to take the pressure of this ridiculous situation the Tories have got us in. May's plan gets voted down in Parliament go back to people with No Deal explained thoroughly (negatives and positives), May's deal explained thoroughly (n&p) and Remain as the three options.

Sorted.

And if options 1 and 2 combine poll more than 3 what happens?

 

[Hampster Gull]

basic premise of WTO is setting the same tariffs across all members - it does not impose tariff. set tariff to zero as long as its same from Japan, US, Germany, thats fine.

Semantics

 

[Pavilionaire]

Individuals may have said this but the EU as an institution has not officially closed negotiations. The commission can as a body submit recommendations during the Article 50 period. Its not really over negotiating wise from a EU standpoint until the European Council concludes matters and says it is.

European Chief Negotiator Michel Barnier held the 585-page Withdrawal Agreement aloft and announced to the world the EU had agreed it with the UK, said there would be no more negotiation of it, and then the EU 27 signed it off inside 38 minutes. They are as united about this as it is possible to be.

Indeed, they quite rightly realise if you don't draw a line in the sand then preparations for No Deal can't begin in earnest. The EU have already got their minds around No Deal and are implementing changes on the front line. Conversely the UK - by focusing solely on May's Deal - has made no meaningful preparation and therefore No Deal becomes more of a cliff-edge with each passing day.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

What goes around comes around. Aaron Banks hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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[nicko31]

What goes around comes around. Aaron Banks hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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The Brexiteers are special types of hyprocrites.

 

[nicko31]

Guerrilla war: The parliamentary fight to stop no-deal...

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/12/04/guerilla-war-the-parliamentary-fight-to-stop-no-deal

If a Tory MP is worth his/her salt and wants their party to survive Brexit, no deal is a non starter and should back Grieve or Benn's amendment.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The BBC have pulled out of holding the Brexit debate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46444061

 

[dazzer6666]

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