ManOfSussex
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'Achieve a hard border in Ireland' - Of all the lines to *** up, she ****s that one up. She's comic genius. 
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[Politics] Brexit
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ManOfSussex
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Looks like those red ECJ lines are being done rare now.
Still no proper answer for the border then.
Started well, has just turned desperate now.
Started well, has just turned desperate now.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
More meaningless waffle , the temperature in London has risen at least 10 degrees as a result of all the hot air coming out of the Mansion House
dingodan
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She went through the two options, seemed reasonable to me.
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dingodan
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People who don't want Brexit should be very happy then.
Haven’t the EU already ruled most of these options out?
Passporting gone for banks.
That will go down well
Passporting gone for banks.
That will go down well
ManOfSussex
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Sounding a bit pink they are.
dingodan
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How so?
ManOfSussex
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Yes - but it's not cherry picking apparently, because if it all trade deals are, so both us and The EU are going to have our cake and eat it because it's in their interests etc - basically same ***t, different day.
We have a shared interest in getting this right... let's get on with it. 
ManOfSussex
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Sorry - I can't be bothered wasting 4 hours on a snowy Friday afternoon talking to you again dingodan.
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Well, having said 'prepare to be unimpressed' in advance of May's speech, I have to say that it is better than I anticipated. There: how about that as a break from the reflexive point-scoring?
1. It avoided the awful 'Brexit means Brexit' rubbish that characterised previous speeches
2. It did embrace some details - I think we are beginning to see the meaning of 'deep and special'
3. It did articulate what 'we' want with specificity on key areas and issues
4. It did show some thinking about solutions
5. It did open up the possibility of give and take
6. It did address the Northern Irish border issue
7. It did acknowledge the fears of the race to the bottom
8. It did make a reasonable stab at saying that there are sensible grounds for the UK arguing that it is a special case i.e. not just another off-the-peg trade partner
The big issues - and of course this will now be picked over by people with brains bigger than mine both within and outwith this thread - seem to me to include
a) will the EU play ball?
b) is there enough here to open up sensible and constructive negotiations?
c) are we as special as we think we are?
d) would leaving both the SEM and the Customs Union make us poor candidates for frictionless trade?
e) if we are to remain as wedded to the EU as this implies (in terms of regulatory standards for good) will this make us a less attractive partner for other trade partners?
f) is this a government that has the credibility and ability to negotiate?
g) just how much does the EU want to be seen to help a leaving member to a soft landing?
h) is there enough time to get this implemented?
and
i) will it bloody work and will it be worth the trouble??
I'm sure this will be the subject of some lively contributions.......... eg 'tick tock'
1. It avoided the awful 'Brexit means Brexit' rubbish that characterised previous speeches
2. It did embrace some details - I think we are beginning to see the meaning of 'deep and special'
3. It did articulate what 'we' want with specificity on key areas and issues
4. It did show some thinking about solutions
5. It did open up the possibility of give and take
6. It did address the Northern Irish border issue
7. It did acknowledge the fears of the race to the bottom
8. It did make a reasonable stab at saying that there are sensible grounds for the UK arguing that it is a special case i.e. not just another off-the-peg trade partner
The big issues - and of course this will now be picked over by people with brains bigger than mine both within and outwith this thread - seem to me to include
a) will the EU play ball?
b) is there enough here to open up sensible and constructive negotiations?
c) are we as special as we think we are?
d) would leaving both the SEM and the Customs Union make us poor candidates for frictionless trade?
e) if we are to remain as wedded to the EU as this implies (in terms of regulatory standards for good) will this make us a less attractive partner for other trade partners?
f) is this a government that has the credibility and ability to negotiate?
g) just how much does the EU want to be seen to help a leaving member to a soft landing?
h) is there enough time to get this implemented?
and
i) will it bloody work and will it be worth the trouble??
I'm sure this will be the subject of some lively contributions.......... eg 'tick tock'
ManOfSussex
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Really need to see what the reaction is from The EU and the freakoids like Rees-Mogg.
Why... so you can cherry pick some extreme and random comments and claim the sky is falling in?
dingodan
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You just weren't really listening were you.
ManOfSussex
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To you? No I'm not.