Ok, I'm not really down with this shit. This stupidity that not accepting the results of a referendum is somehow "undemocratic" has been trolled out non-stop by leavers ever since the result came in and I've had enough of it. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say something that will have the Brexiters spitting their tea out all over their computer screens........
REFERENDUMS ARE UNDEMOCRATIC
There! Didn't see that one coming did you? How can I possibly argue this load of absolute nonsense then? Well, it's gonna be a long one so bear with me.....
There were a series of absolutely corking referendums in Germany in the 1930s....From that famously "democratic" organisation known as the National Socialist German Workers' Party.....
I liked this one in 1933 about withdrawing from The League of Nations....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_referendum,_1933
And this absolute cracker of a referendum where 38 MILLION people (88% YES) thought it would be a good idea to merge the position of Chancellor and President into one absolute ruler known as "The Fuhrer".....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_referendum,_1934
Check out this one where 98.8% of "the people" thought it would be a good idea to invade the Rhineland and thus violate the Treaty of Versailles....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_election_and_referendum,_1936
And let's top off this little series of referendums with this classic (there's actually a pic of the ballot paper here).......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germa...m,_1938#/media/File:Stimmzettel-Anschluss.jpg
Yay referendums aye? Yay democracy!!!!
Funnily enough after the war in Europe was over Churchill suggested having one of our own about waiting until victory in Japan before breaking the all-party coalition. Clement Attlee was unimpressed with this idea, saying....
“I could not consent to the introduction into our national life of a device so alien to all our traditions as the referendum, which has only too often been the instrument of Nazism and fascism.” (https://capx.co/referendums-are-a-quintessentially-british-institution/)
Ironically the UK didn't feel the need to hold a referendum until 1975....About the UK’s continuing membership of the European Economic Community. Even Mrs Thatch seemed to think that holding a referendum was a wholly "undemocratic" enterprise at the time....
“The late Lord Attlee was right when he said that the referendum was a device of dictators and demagogues.” (http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/102649)
Interesting that once she was in office she never held a single referendum in those 11 years....
Of course Germany, now a fully democratic country, still remembers it's wartime past (even if most brexiteers don't) and has banned referendums altogether. Hitler made them realise that referendums are dangerous tools that can be used by weak governments to mobilise "the people" into yelling all at once. This creates a thunderclap of noise centered around the "popular opinion" that legitimises their argument and drowns out opposing views. To say it again for the cheap seats...REAL democracy is a system that recognises the right for the losers to still have representation and a voice. This is why we actually run the country via parliamentary democracy, rather than referendums.
Because referendums are undemocratic.
Bloody Nora, not flipping surely, not used enough these days
So what part of that report do you disagree with or, as I suspect, are you substituting bluster and bullshit for reasonable debate? Go on, admit it. You never even looked at the article.
That wasn't the question I asked. What part of that investment bank's forecasting model do you disagree with?
No. Once again you're completely off message. I'm merely putting forward known facts. Unfortunately, they are facts which do not sit comfortably with your particular views.
"Windowlickers"......... nice. It's impressive how those nice, liberal, politically correct rational remainers never resort to abusive language. It's almost a pity they lost,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Apparently a 'Sky Remote' is the unit of measurement these days
