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[Politics] Boris Johnson served County Court judgment.









Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Current Prime Minister dodges a £500 debt.. " Non story really " [emoji1787][emoji1787]...ah but Jeremy Corbyn wears the wrong coat to an Armistice commemoration and....

He hasn't dodged a debt, he's been careless.

Congratulations BL, you are officially NSC’s last standing Tory and BJ supporter/apologist. (Das Reich doesn’t count)

You'll find a few.

Being a 'Tory' would be a bewildering title for me, given that I haven't voted Tory for at least 25 years.

I'm just getting tired of irrational politicking and having any political view in general. It's better just to try and assess and rationalise any situation as it arises. I still doubt I would vote Tory again though. Maybe in a local council election if I thought the candidate was a really good ward person. I'm tired of it all now. I got tired of me, now I'm tired of everyone else.

When I saw he had a CCJ my first thought was that he had been probably been careless in paying something and missed or didn't deal with the letters. Maybe someone else does it for him. The amount is low so it's highly unlikely he can't pay.

It's a non story to me.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Local Authority parking fines go via the Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton County Court.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,369
Surrey
Can easily happen. Especially if you've had different addresses.

Non story really.
I'd have thought someone of good moral fibre with efficiency and competence would probably be quite capable of avoiding this, but maybe I'm wrong and one of the other dozens of PMs we've had in the last 100 years have actually been chased through the courts for money.

Maybe it is a non story, but ultimately is says a lot about the sort of person he is.
 




nickbrighton

Well-known member
Feb 19, 2016
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its not like he has a partner and an army of secretaries, staff and other lackeys to check that he is paying his bills. Ever tried the "I was busy doing other things" as a defence against a claim against you in the County court? You know how far that would get you? Wanna guess?

And I'm not giving Boris personal credit for the vaccine rollout. That has been a great success because the NHS took it over and did it. If they hadn't he would have stuck Dildo Harding in charge and we would still be looking for the "I've been a brave boy" stickers.

You have such a dismissive view of people paying their bills, I presume you have never been in business yourself and have no understanding of the importance of cashflow, particular to the small independents.

You clearly got the memo from Central Office.

However the reality is what the general public think is irrelevant, it's whether our PM has broken the law not the rules.

And that's why he is currently under investigation.


I am not trying to belittle the fact that he hasn't paid a £500 bill, more the fact that I was expecting it to be blown up to something bigger than it needs to be. Does anyone really think Borris is trying to get out of paying what for him is a relatively small amount . its in all likelihood just a **** up by someone in his staff who should have paid it rather than some nefarious attempt to not pay,

I have actually set up and run a small one man business, and yes I know all about cash flow and its importance. I also know how easy it is in any organisation large or small for something to slip through the net.

Just because on this occasion I happen to think this is a storm in a teacup for the general population, and will be spun by his opponents doesn't mean I am a true blue flag waving tory. Borris has inflicted Brexit on this country and for that he should not be forgiven. I realise he isn't personally responsible for the set up of the vaccine program (The Military and NHS is- ) but he is the one who is head of it. If you blame the man for everything that went wrong, then under the same reasoning he is also responsible ultimately for what went right
 


CheeseRolls

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I am not trying to belittle the fact that he hasn't paid a £500 bill, more the fact that I was expecting it to be blown up to something bigger than it needs to be. Does anyone really think Borris is trying to get out of paying what for him is a relatively small amount . its in all likelihood just a **** up by someone in his staff who should have paid it rather than some nefarious attempt to not pay,

I have actually set up and run a small one man business, and yes I know all about cash flow and its importance. I also know how easy it is in any organisation large or small for something to slip through the net.

Just because on this occasion I happen to think this is a storm in a teacup for the general population, and will be spun by his opponents doesn't mean I am a true blue flag waving tory. Borris has inflicted Brexit on this country and for that he should not be forgiven. I realise he isn't personally responsible for the set up of the vaccine program (The Military and NHS is- ) but he is the one who is head of it. If you blame the man for everything that went wrong, then under the same reasoning he is also responsible ultimately for what went right

CPFC one here - Happy to stiff the St Johns Ambulance for a few quid, due to administrative oversight.

It STILL hasn't been paid, the law is for other people isn't it?
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,471
Only if he's made bankrupt - he'd have to resign in that case

only his seat technically. it would be up to the MPs from there, could be made Lord and carry on as PM. its funny how there's a lot of fuss about FPTP v PR for elections, little mention is made of how we (dont) select the PM.
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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The Black Country
It's not that he's had one, but he's not paid it for 6 months. He's earning £150k per year and hasn't settled up? Something fishy there.

Don’t you know that £150k is simultaneously “chicken feed” and not enough money to live on? Well, according to our glorious leader at any rate.
 


nickbrighton

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Feb 19, 2016
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CPFC one here - Happy to stiff the St Johns Ambulance for a few quid, due to administrative oversight.

It STILL hasn't been paid, the law is for other people isn't it?

at what point have i said he shouldnt pay it? or think he shouldn't pay it. Of course he should , WTF has this to do with and why are you comparing me to CPFC, I just said that the general population wasnt interested and that it would be spun out of all proportion and in all liklihood it IS an admin error.

The CPFC admin was a deliberate method to avoid paying , this isnt the same situation at all

However it seems that I am wrong and people are interested and that this is a huge story about how Borris is deliberately with malice aforethought trying top bankrupt a small business over £500 and worthy of 24 hour news updates and a royal commission and inquiry and he should be tried and executed and a thousand pages on NSC
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
He hasn't dodged a debt, he's been careless.



You'll find a few.

Being a 'Tory' would be a bewildering title for me, given that I haven't voted Tory for at least 25 years.

I'm just getting tired of irrational politicking and having any political view in general. It's better just to try and assess and rationalise any situation as it arises. I still doubt I would vote Tory again though. Maybe in a local council election if I thought the candidate was a really good ward person. I'm tired of it all now. I got tired of me, now I'm tired of everyone else.

When I saw he had a CCJ my first thought was that he had been probably been careless in paying something and missed or didn't deal with the letters. Maybe someone else does it for him. The amount is low so it's highly unlikely he can't pay.

It's a non story to me.

He’s still under investigation for the £15000 Caribbean holiday.
 




Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
Jul 20, 2003
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Single mum in a council flat gets issued with a CCJ, takes out a payday loan, can't clear it in time debt rolls over and over increasing as it goes. Tory **** s deride them for their ignorance and inability to manage a simple household budget.

First Lord of the treasury gets one and they're on the T.V. saying it's ridiculous that he's a supposed to get by on £150K when he's used to earning many times that and he's having to pay for a divorce.
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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He’s still under investigation for the £15000 Caribbean holiday.

That is, of course, different.

In the grand scheme of things I think a CCJ for forgetting to pay, or someone else not paying for him etc is really nothing.
 


CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
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at what point have i said he shouldnt pay it? or think he shouldn't pay it. Of course he should , WTF has this to do with and why are you comparing me to CPFC, I just said that the general population wasnt interested and that it would be spun out of all proportion and in all liklihood it IS an admin error.

The CPFC admin was a deliberate method to avoid paying , this isnt the same situation at all

However it seems that I am wrong and people are interested and that this is a huge story about how Borris is deliberately with malice aforethought trying top bankrupt a small business over £500 and worthy of 24 hour news updates and a royal commission and inquiry and he should be tried and executed and a thousand pages on NSC

The biggest killer of small businesses isn't getting in a bit of a mess with the paperwork and somehow failing to pay your bills, it is cashflow. Funny how these forgetful people, never seem so forgetful when it comes to ordering things they want isn't it?

Whoever took this to court has not been trying to gain publicity over it, or they could have sold it to the Mirror months ago. You have to conclude it was a matter of principle. Fairness and decency, which have yet again been tossed aside on party loyalty lines.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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its not like he has had anything else on his mind is it, say like a global pandemic, financial crisis, nationwide vaccine rollout or anything else remotely important

You can just see sections of the left salavating at another "scandal" that the general population really doesn't give a toss about (who actually cares about the wallpaper-certainly not the voters in Hartlepool ) as they desperately try to ignore and deflect from the more important issue that they are still unelectable and unable to provide even the semblance of an opposition party even after Brexit, Covid , the aforementioned Wallpaper incident and now an unpaid bill for what will probably turn out to be an forgotten batch of hair straighteners or something


Calm down, dear. I'm not remotely salivating.

I did snigger a bit, though. "Totally without merit". That's not a denial; that's a Boris denial - making it sound like a denial when it's nothing of the sort.

Merit :"the quality of being particularly good or worthy, especially so as to deserve praise or reward.". He thinks it isn't particularly good or praiseworthy that he's been taken to court. Who knew? :lolol:
 


Rookie

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Feb 8, 2005
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It was served relatively recently to Number 10 Downing Street and he hasn't had that many addresses.

As anyone knows, you get a number of warnings before the courts get involved and let's be fair - whoever he owes the money to would have a reasonable idea of where to send the letters to.

Not necessarily. If the claimant has not followed the pre action protocol then a defendant may only get one letter from the court. Fail to acknowledge that one letter and boom judgment entered without further notice.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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Seven Dials
I'd have thought someone of good moral fibre with efficiency and competence would probably be quite capable of avoiding this, but maybe I'm wrong and one of the other dozens of PMs we've had in the last 100 years have actually been chased through the courts for money.

Maybe it is a non story, but ultimately is says a lot about the sort of person he is.

This is the point.

He is notorious for asking interns and work experience kids at the Telegraph and Spectator to get him a cup of coffee and then 'forgetting' to reimburse them, or buying someone lunch and then 'realising' he has left his wallet back at his desk, so could they pay instead?. Of course he will repay them ...

He considers himself above such common courtesies, and this unpaid fine suggests that in his own mind he is too important to bother about the basic rules of society that the rest of us are expected to live by.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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First Lord of the treasury gets one and they're on the T.V. saying it's ridiculous that he's a supposed to get by on £150K when he's used to earning many times that and he's having to pay for a divorce.
Sounds like he should join some kind of European Super League...









...oh.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Pffft. The Pied Piper has done far worse than get a CCJ.

If we are talking about this, what is it he really doesn't want us to focus on ?
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Pffft. The Pied Piper has done far worse than get a CCJ.

If we are talking about this, what is it he really doesn't want us to focus on ?

Whatever it is, it’s ‘priced in’ with his supporters. If voters can’t be swayed by the 20k+ excess deaths due to his two late lockdowns, nothing will convince them that he is not PM material.
 


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