GreersElbow
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Hardly a lack of information online to show how terrible ISIS is, you can make an informed decision at 15.
No sympathy, remove passport and let them go.
No sympathy, remove passport and let them go.
They are being described as grade A students. Dread to think what the curriculum is.
But seriously, how dumb can you be? If you are a woman of that particular faith then you should be more aware than anyone that to live in Britain is to have things pretty good. They must have an astonishing lack of ambition to take this step.
. While typical Western teenagers will take drugs or have sex, Muslim girls are forbidden to have that option by the Medieval Superstition that their Culture is.
I find it impossible not to have sympathy. It is hard enough being a teenager, I would imagine being a Muslim teenager is particularly difficult at the moment.
I can't imagine the mindset required to believe that they have no future here in Britain, but it must be terrible. While typical Western teenagers will take drugs or have risky sex to deal with life's difficulties, Muslim girls don't have that option.
These girls will have been misled with false promises of Islamic utopia - one can understand why impressionable and unhappy young people would choose to leave their current life for this kind of fantasy.
I just think it's really sad. As always, I think we should be doing more to help Muslim people, particularly the youngsters, feel like they are valued members of our society with a great future ahead of them here in Britain.
I find it impossible not to have sympathy. It is hard enough being a teenager, I would imagine being a Muslim teenager is particularly difficult at the moment.
I can't imagine the mindset required to believe that they have no future here in Britain, but it must be terrible. While typical Western teenagers will take drugs or have risky sex to deal with life's difficulties, Muslim girls don't have that option.
These girls will have been misled with false promises of Islamic utopia - one can understand why impressionable and unhappy young people would choose to leave their current life for this kind of fantasy.
I just think it's really sad. As always, I think we should be doing more to help Muslim people, particularly the youngsters, feel like they are valued members of our society with a great future ahead of them here in Britain.
You and others are not getting it. Islam has something called "baya" or obligations. One of those is to make your way from non muslim lands"house of Caos" to the Kalifate, or specificly to obey the Kalif, in this case al-baghdadi. A Kalifate has no real borders as it intends on expanding all the time as muslims join it. The Kalif is proposed by clerics as the one who will impose Sharia law in its purest(traditional) form, this is why they have beheadings, crucifixion and slavery.
Its not radicalisation so much as convincing someone this is the true Kalifate, not the same thing. They are also wraped up i millenial/ end of days stuff hence they expect to defeat "The army of rome" when it shows up. this in part also explains their Genocidal lust. Make no mistake genocide on a massive scale is being carried out. Their first targets are the shia/shiites, as they are considered oppostates. Anything that deviates from the purity of the original Islam is considered unislamic and that person declared "takfir" an infidel in the Kalifate.
Rules on jihad are quite clear, attack openly from the outside not inside countries. The problem comes when the IS spokesmen call on muslims to smash infidels in Europe heads open with rocks, run them over and poison them". Comming from the Kalif(who must be from the same tribe as mohammed, which he is)'s representative this gives it legitamacy.
Its the bleeding hearts who want them home safe, weve got enough trouble with this crap than to worry about 3 stupid girls following a religious obligation.
I find it impossible not to have sympathy. It is hard enough being a teenager, I would imagine being a Muslim teenager is particularly difficult at the moment.
I can't imagine the mindset required to believe that they have no future here in Britain, but it must be terrible. While typical Western teenagers will take drugs or have risky sex to deal with life's difficulties, Muslim girls don't have that option.
These girls will have been misled with false promises of Islamic utopia - one can understand why impressionable and unhappy young people would choose to leave their current life for this kind of fantasy.
I just think it's really sad. As always, I think we should be doing more to help Muslim people, particularly the youngsters, feel like they are valued members of our society with a great future ahead of them here in Britain.
These girls will have been misled with false promises of Islamic utopia
Nail on the head here.
If you want to stop this you need to challenge the muslim attitude that they are superior in all ways to non-beleivers, and non beleivers, their culture etc are inferior. That way it would be harder for recruiters to contrast inferior Britain with the pure superior kalifate.
Why is it always down to us!
If young Muslim lads and girls get on with life over here and keep themselves to themselves (like most British kids do) they'll be left to live a nice peaceful life.
Your posts worry me Mustafa because you make me and many others on here sound racist and we are not... we are just fed up with the nonsense that this 'religion' seems to breed.
I find it impossible not to have sympathy. It is hard enough being a teenager, I would imagine being a Muslim teenager is particularly difficult at the moment.
I am a Westerner, I love my country, I love Western life and Western people (not too keen on the governments though) - but this is exactly why I will always stand up for Muslim people.
Of course I will defend Muslims, because they are a minority group and need our support. A vast majority of Muslims have not and will never get radicalised - so I think it's really important we stand up for them. Denouncing Islam is not useful, it will only marginalise and isolate Muslim people. This is not a good thing, not only because it will widen the social divide and lower their wellbeing, but it will also create an environment where radicalisation is more of a risk.
I am a Westerner, I love my country, I love Western life and Western people (not too keen on the governments though) - but this is exactly why I will always stand up for Muslim people.
Of course I will defend Muslims, because they are a minority group and need our support. A vast majority of Muslims have not and will never get radicalised - so I think it's really important we stand up for them. Denouncing Islam is not useful, it will only marginalise and isolate Muslim people. This is not a good thing, not only because it will widen the social divide and lower their wellbeing, but it will also create an environment where radicalisation is more of a risk.
I am a Westerner, I love my country, I love Western life and Western people (not too keen on the governments though) - but this is exactly why I will always stand up for Muslim people.
Of course I will defend Muslims, because they are a minority group and need our support. .
I am a Westerner, I love my country, I love Western life and Western people (not too keen on the governments though) - but this is exactly why I will always stand up for Muslim people.
2.6m Muslims, 3m Welsh.......won't anyone think of the Welsh!Neo-Nazis are also a minority group in the UK - are you going to support them as well?