spring hall convert
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Chris Lewis is handy with bat and ball.
About time Hick got another go.
About time Hick got another go.
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2nd Test: England v Pakistan, Old Trafford
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Chris Lewis is a bit of a risk if the current heatwave conditions persist.
50 partnership for Cook 38* (contribution 23) and Root 23* off 100 balls 
England 75-1 (23.1 overs)
England 75-1 (23.1 overs)
Chris Lewis is a peach of a selection...
Finchley Seagull
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I really dislike it when people assume they know best despite clearly being clueless. Given your knowledge of all sports, it is frankly shocking that you've not managed top level clubs in football and cricket (at the same time).
Trescothick isn't the answer. He was brilliant in his day but there's no point looking back.
Hales had a great series against Sri Lanka. Yes, he's started slowly in this series (and there is an argument that Sir Lanka had a weak attack) but you've got to give him time. It would ruin his confidence, and that of all serious options for the opening position, if a 40 year old was brought in to the side instead.
To be fair, he only meant for ONE match.
(Allan Lamb is down for the third Test)
Finchley Seagull
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I only saw the following comments having replied. I'm glad the suggestion is being treated as it deserves to be.
Maybe England should consider bringing a couple of left backs to include in the squad too (or have I got the wrong sport)?
Lunch, Day 1
England 95-1 (27 overs)
Cook 40*(75) Root 41*(68)
after losing Hales early on for 10, Alastair Cook and Joe Root have ensured that it has been England's session all the way.
England 95-1 (27 overs)
Cook 40*(75) Root 41*(68)
after losing Hales early on for 10, Alastair Cook and Joe Root have ensured that it has been England's session all the way.
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Yardy? Shirley you mean Vardy?
Finchley Seagull
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A good start. Let's hope it continues unlike our first innings last test.
BensGrandad
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The difference being Trescothick is still playing 1st class cricket and has scored 4 centuries this season including 1 against Pakistan.
BensGrandad
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Is that not a point of fans message boards and forums as we all have better knowledge than the management in place. Obviously this excludes you as you always agree with everything and wouldnt have an original idea if your life depended on it. My views are just that my views and a point for discussion if you dont agree so be it. It wont stop me having original thoughts even they do appear somewhat bizarre to many some times.
Finchley Seagull
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So say there's an option. You should look at the way you phrase things. Firstly "Hales is useless" is a statement of fact. Not an opinion. And while not proven at test level, it is also incorrect to say he is useless.
Then you state "there is an answer as I have been saying but the selectors wont do it". This suggests that you know for a fact it would work. Not "I have an idea" or "We could try". That is a view. Yours was a confrontational statement of fact and seems to make out the selectors are stupid for not trying a 40 year old.
If you look at threads, I have plenty of original views and ideas, I just phrase them in a way that aren't confrontational (which much of yours are). Maybe it's just but I find your way of posting to be superior to many on here, as if you know best, which encourages reactions like mine (or of mocking you like others have done on this thread) and doesn't lead to discussion.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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BG, the ONLY way this could happen is if you disguised yourself as a gin waiter, snuck into Lord's and plied the selectors with Gordon's over a three hour period.
Fortunately the current England selectors tend to get it right most of the time but I do miss some of the antics of the 80s and 90s - who could forget the gin-soaked selection of Monty Lynch, or Ted Dexter selecting Malcolm Devon, or announcing Jimmy Cook was in the England frame only for a journalist to point out he was South African?
Going back a little earlier - the recall of Brian Close vs Windies aged 45 and Norman Gifford aged 44 were also particular highlights. Bringing back Banger would be right up there with those great times.
England 100-1 (29.2 overs, RR3.41) Cook 41* Root 44*
Trescothick will never play test cricket again!!
Personally I don't see what Hales is doing so wrong.....lots of other modern day players didn't start brilliantly but given a bit of time and faith turned out to be fantastic players for England.....Joe Root and Jimmy Anderson , remember how they started??
Personally I don't see what Hales is doing so wrong.....lots of other modern day players didn't start brilliantly but given a bit of time and faith turned out to be fantastic players for England.....Joe Root and Jimmy Anderson , remember how they started??
Joe Root 51* (86 balls, 9 fours)
His 21st in 44 Tests, with 9 hundreds.
England 111-1 (31.3 overs)
His 21st in 44 Tests, with 9 hundreds.
England 111-1 (31.3 overs)
Pavilionaire
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Another record for Cook - now most test 50s as England captain (31 - beating Mike Atherton's 30).
103 partnership for Cook 59* (contribution 44) and Root 53* off 192 balls 
England 128-1 (38.2 overs)
England 128-1 (38.2 overs)