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I have an electric car and live 300 miles from the Amex. I’m planning on charging once each way for 30 mins or so, which is about how long we take at the services anyway.
Have you considered adding some fibre to your diet...?
I have an electric car and live 300 miles from the Amex. I’m planning on charging once each way for 30 mins or so, which is about how long we take at the services anyway.
They are coming down in price. On the Tesla website they have their ‘model 3’ starting at £41k.
surely electrical charging bays at garages would be more sensible , along with car owners having them installed at their houses .........quite a few of my mates have teslas , they are wicked bits of kit and fast as ****.
The digital world will provide a solution, think about JustPark, if you'd said to someone twenty years ago you could get £10-£20 a day allowing someone to park on your drive they'd have laughed. You watch the Apple HomeCharge Pod that will come out so I can pull up on someone's drive, having booked a slot on line, using a map of the UK with thousands of Pod locations, you drip in a 30 minute charge, you make a little more than the electric costs and Apple make billions ..... sound familiar?
Mind me asking how much it cost?
I think the issues over charging will change dramatically over the next ten years. Probably more than a lot of us can really conceive at the moment.
When something becomes the dominant product in it’s industry, technology can be developed very quickly because there is so much investment in it. For example in the space of ten years, mobile phones went from a brick that a few people had, to internet using, music playing , picture taking phone that everyone on the planet had. The world is changing and if the electric cars over take petrol and diesel cars then I would expect big changes, and we won’t be confined by todays constraints.
Just acquired Mercedes CLA250e and very pleased. It is rather like driving a laptop but, once you get used to it, a very good car. I use electric solely for local journeys (max 30-35 mile battery range) and eco or comfort modes for longer. Shocked by the complexity of a) finding public charging points that work (my nearest is in Dorchester, 17 miles way, the Bridport one has been out of action for months);
b) the hassle of getting a wall charger at home. BP Chargemaster can't install if it means the engineer has to go higher than the first step on a step ladder. It is a joke, so my OLEV grant will be wasted on paying an electrician to get a cable to the point where the engineer with vertigo can get to it.
surely would it not be better to wait for a developed self charging car
Maxus (me neither..) at £53k+vat.
So all I can see is that we have discovered who all of the well off people are on here.
Diesel van for me as I don't earn a fortune.
In the UK you can get good tax relief as a business owner on electric vehicles so that can be a big factor to. I know lots of business owners with Teslas for that reason
You have to spend the money before you get any return, not happening for us small guys.
The digital world will provide a solution, think about JustPark, if you'd said to someone twenty years ago you could get £10-£20 a day allowing someone to park on your drive they'd have laughed. You watch the Apple HomeCharge Pod that will come out so I can pull up on someone's drive, having booked a slot on line, using a map of the UK with thousands of Pod locations, you drip in a 30 minute charge, you make a little more than the electric costs and Apple make billions ..... sound familiar?
more like 20 years, and the real advance of phones came about at a confluence of decades of improvements in LED display tech and processor miniaturisation.
a problem with the assumption we'll just find tech solution is often innovations dont scale outside the labs, either in production or economics. or in case of a nuclear power supply, politics.
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I think the nuclear power supply is pretty extreme, it was really just an illustration that times are changing and radical solutions are being looked at.
In 20 years I think things will drastically different, but I think inside 10 years I think the changes could be pretty huge as well. In itself electric cars becoming the main type of car being produced and sold would be pretty radical.
Obviously it's just speculation, but personally I could see that happening within 10 years, but I think that is the assumption rather than a tech solution being found. Mainly because a lot of the tech already exists to some degree. The question mark over its progression and development would be dependent on investment and the scale of both development and investment is dependent on just how dominant electric cars become.
Imagine living in a block of flats in a large city ( not all flats have underground car parks).....or terraced housing where you have to park 1/2 mile away......you going to need a long extension lead....
Electric cars are well and good but until they can find a way to safely dispose of the battery it seems somewhat counterproductive. Whilst an important step in the right direction, the infrastructure needs to be in place as well as advances in technology so long trips aren’t extended by potentially a few hours due to the need to charge the battery.
I think they start at about £75k
Will certainly consider an ev next time round but the prices will need to have come down as they seem prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Petrol Corsa range is £16k to £26k, Corse-e range starts at £30k
Kia Niro petrol is £24k to £32k, e-Niro is £32k to £40k
that needs sorting before most folk can afford to actually buy one.
I think the issues over charging will change dramatically over the next ten years. Probably more than a lot of us can really conceive at the moment.
When something becomes the dominant product in it’s industry, technology can be developed very quickly because there is so much investment in it. For example in the space of ten years, mobile phones went from a brick that a few people had, to internet using, music playing , picture taking phone that everyone on the planet had. The world is changing and if the electric cars over take petrol and diesel cars then I would expect big changes, and we won’t be confined by todays constraints.
There was an interesting article doing the rounds a few months back. https://www.energylivenews.com/2020...lear-waste-that-could-last-up-to-28000-years/
I’m not saying this is on the cards anytime soon or that it will work/take off, but it illustrates that big industries are seriously looking out revolutionary solutions at the moment and people are looking to cash in on that. That’s the sort of scenario that can push big changes through.
I've heard of Tesla graveyards in the US where a lot of the issues they've had with the cars can't be fixed economically and cars are being written off. The batteries can't be recycled and a lot of the composites and bonding agents used in manufacturing is toxic. I'm not sure we'll ever see a Tesla made today, still going strong in 50 years time like my old little Datsun.