Thunder Bolt
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Lord Bracknell
On fire
The point is ...
At the first sign of Gibraltar being something that might be discussed in the course of Brexit negotiations, Tory warmongers like Howard come crawling out to remind us all that warfare is the way to resolve the issue.
It isn't. Discussion is the way forward.
At the first sign of Gibraltar being something that might be discussed in the course of Brexit negotiations, Tory warmongers like Howard come crawling out to remind us all that warfare is the way to resolve the issue.
It isn't. Discussion is the way forward.
drew
Drew
Were they inhabited at that time?
Also, not sure even Argentina existed a couple of centuries ago!!
Lord Bracknell
On fire
We don't need a navy. All we need is a few beacons along the coast and we will scare the Spaniards away.
drew
Drew
Perhaps they should ask him of his views on the Tories management of the armed forces? Cancelling the order for the planes for the carrier in favour of another type of aircraft then finding out that would mean expensive changes to the design of the carrier and cancelling that order to go back to the original planes, all of which wasted over £100m and means we will now have a carrier with nothing to carry when it hopefully gets going later this year!!!
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Speaking of stupid ... have you ever heard of context (see interview)? Speaking of comical .. like Spain would ever think of taking on Europe's most significant military power.
An Argentinian is someone who lives in South America but considers themselves better than that, speaks bad Spanish, drives a German car, dresses like an Italian, lives in a French house and wants to be British (so I was told by an Argie colleague of mine a couple of weeks ago)
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Hampster Gull
New member
- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,462
Its ok, brexiteers will go to war
I know I'm getting to that time of life but I'm not playing bowls. They can have it.
Sounds just right but if he's a mate you could say "You're Welsh and you know you are....".
May need some lengthy explaining.....
studio150
Well-known member
We have been told on countless times that leave voters knew what they were voting for and we would we would all be better off outside the EU. So they must have been fully aware of what impact a hard border would have on Gibraltar and the threat of Spain being difficult with Gibraltar going forward so they must have a solution that provides for the best deal possible for Britain (including Gibraltar).
Perhaps they would like to set out what this best possible deal is for Gibraltar so we can measure the success or otherwise in 2 years time.
Perhaps they would like to set out what this best possible deal is for Gibraltar so we can measure the success or otherwise in 2 years time.
- Aug 7, 2003
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Bit rich of the Spaniards considering their stance on Ceuta and Melilla is exactly the same as ours on Gibraltar. Do one Pedro ��
GT49er
Well-known member
Perhaps the fact that huge cock-ups are made in defence procurement by both parties suggests we should conduct an examination of the civil servants in the Ministry of Defence, who are the common factor...............................
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Or maybe they should just listen to the people of Gibraltar, who voted overwhelmingly to remain in a European Union with Spain?
Theatre of Trees
Well-known member
Do you have a reference for this. Earliest date I can find is 1765.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
But prefer to be British. They voted Remain, but that doesn't mean they want to be Spanish. It just eased the border crossings every day for commuters.
- Apr 5, 2014
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Speaking of stupid ... have you ever heard of context (see interview)? Speaking of comical .. like Spain would ever think of taking on Europe's most significant military power.
That would be France.
Let's just say the Spanish government were mad enough for the sake of debate.
The size of the Spanish military against that of the United Kingdom would be of too much weight to re-take an area that is in their own back yard without immeasurable and unacceptable casualties.
It is not a straight forward match on a level playing field. The logistical deployment of military would be nigh on impossible without outside assistance.
If Spain invaded Gibralter there is nothing we could do to stop them from fortifying the territory to make it unrecoverable.
Spain has a military personnel count not far off ours. Their air force is a third of our size and the naval force about half. That would be enough to see us off if they are on home ground when a land invasion is needed.
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happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Worry not ! One of the leading lights of the Leave campaign is now Foreign Secretary so he'll have had a handle on this from the off. We are lucky to be in such safe hands.
Brighton Mod
Its All Too Beautiful
Its nice to find out who your friends are, time will tell who are our allies and who aren't. Rhetoric and gesturing at such an early stage is not a very good tactic.