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7-1 Why the hell can't England do that?
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Goring Gull
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well it's provoked debate 
Leaving aside the fact that, man for man, the German players are pretty much all better than their English counterparts, the core of the German team (6 or 7 players) have been playing together internationally since they were in the junior German international teams. It was a deliberate decision to keep this core group together right through to the full international team. The dividends are now there for all to see.
I think you will find that is how Germany played including a bit of tippy tappy bollards inside the Brazilian penalty area before slotting home another goal .......
mikeyjh
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I'm talking about coaching, not the management of a game, you can absolutely see that they play without fear and their decision making is clear and uncomplicated - Being organised doesn't have to be at the expense of 'flair'. We worry too much about particular formations and style of play. It was clear heads, confidence, skill AND organisation that won the game last night, not formation or a particular style.
All the talk has been about how good Germany were and how bad Brazil were.
If the Brazilians had taken their chances at the start of the second half, it could easily have been 5-4 with 35 minutes to go.
Don't think the Germans would have looked so comfortable then!
If the Brazilians had taken their chances at the start of the second half, it could easily have been 5-4 with 35 minutes to go.
Don't think the Germans would have looked so comfortable then!
mikeyjh
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Missing my point - All I read is about tippy tappy v long ball, but it's so much more complex than that. Most good teams use both short and direct passing, it's how, when and how well you decide to do it that's important. Couple of Germany's goals started from massive boots from the keeper.....
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Eggman
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Stupid logic. IF one of those chances had gone in, they wouldn't have had the other chances to score. The game would have played out differently.
It was a beating.
Vegas Seagull
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You didn't make the trip to Munich September 1 2001 then? Good fun
Black Rod
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They blooded the likes of Ozil, Neuer, Muller, Kroos, Khedira and Boateng at the 2010 World Cup. And still got to the semi finals. England tried similar this time around with a load of new faces and "exciting young prospects" and went out in the group
spring hall convert
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This actually makes the OP look sensible. Fair play.
BRIGHT ON Q
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Dont get me wrong, Germany are a good team but they were arguably 2nd best in the last 16 game, i think Brazil were horribly poor last night but it was the fact Germany just kept going at them is which sets them apart.How many teams would have just kept going for the jugular like they did last night?
spring hall convert
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Not quite true - they were utter toilet from 2000-2002. Thing is they actually did some thing about it rather than talked it over and fogot about it.
The Wizard
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I think that the successful longer pass is more about movement, strategy, organisation which should be down to coaching, our real issue is the short passing which requires technique.
All teams might be able to position players and kick the ball a long way ( some better than others admittedly ) but we cannot retain possession in tight areas and 'pop' the ball around like the Germans, Dutch etc.
The problem is that we are technically inept compared to other nations, once you have technically become an expert then its up to the coaching staff and manager to administer the style of play preferred.
mikeyjh
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Yep, but I think that's as much a mental thing, our players just sh*t themselves when under pressure on the ball.
Man of Harveys
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I actually think we eased off on them considerably after the fifth goal went in.
Perhaps, but thats down to their early football experience.
We have created an early experience environment where young footballers are not encouraged to pass or receive the football.
This weekend go to a local tournament, wait for the semi final and take a look what those 8 year olds experience.
Parents thronged around a small pitch, maybe even two deep.
The greatest cheer will be when a youngsters boots it, heads it or tackles someone, god forbid if a little one tries to receive a pass from a defender and loses possession.
It just isnt tolerated, but I presume this is where Academys step in.
mikeyjh
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I entirely agree.