The beginning of the end.

portlock seagull said:

Fair bit of truth in that I have to admit. It's almost how you tell the difference between fans who really have followed us threw thin and thin and those who are new or as good as, having only turned up in 2005 and 1991 since 1983 despite being a regular at the Amex. I don't begrudge them following the club now, (where were you when we were shit...? Ow, shopping, ok...) but they have, crucially, missed so much dross they really don't know just how capable we are of f ucking it up. It's not pessimism, it's not arrogance, it's not uberism. It's just experience. And therefore after nights like tonight, no JCL, glory hunting, AWOL (war years), cup final only ticket grabbing fellow 'fan' is going to tell me that this club can't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Because we can. And have. So take your optimistic complacency and do one!

Christ I hate the hope. Give me despair anyday...

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Claretnblue said:

Before I say this it is NOT meant as a troll just an observation ....
It would appear that your side may have a 'soft underbelly' as highlighted by Keanes last minute equaliser for us last year and tonight's result when the pressure is on to get a result. Is this a concern? Whilst you had far more flair than us last year (which worried me and other clarets? Ultimately grit saw us through, I just wondered if it was a bit of a niggle?
Like I said not trolling just a view, u have more than enough to win the league which I expect u to do . It could be something that's a deadly flaw next year in the premier league next year tho when points are harder to come by. Good luck guys!

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Finchley Seagull said:

I find that a bit presumptuous. You are basically saying that if your not getting carried away and panicking tonight, you have not supported the club long. Personally, I started supporting the club in 1990 and have been a regular since then and I think the original post is pathetic and attention seeking.

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Hyperion said:

It's a fair cop in that sense but this forum is so one way sometimes. I have seen it all over the years and in general I am an optimist but it's being so close to glory that hurts the most.

You can't have a discussion forum with a differing opinion but it seems someone with "an opinion" other than all for one, one for all is deemed a pr*ck.

I want us to succeed so much like us all but I ain't gonna gloss over expectation against reality

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atomised said:

I agree having stuck with it as a season ticket holder at gillingham theres a lot of twats on her tonight

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Finchley Seagull said:

I find that a bit presumptuous. You are basically saying that if your not getting carried away and panicking tonight, you have not supported the club long. Personally, I started supporting the club in 1990 and have been a regular since then and I think the original post is pathetic and attention seeking.

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Finchley Seagull said:

Trolling or not (and it is noticeable you choose tonight to post and not after our wins this season) you couldn't be more wrong. Last season we were a bit soft but this season we've signed Duffy and Murray and are much better. You can't make a judgement like that in one game and we've generally been very good against top teams.

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atomised said:

I agree having stuck with it as a season ticket holder at gillingham theres a lot of twats on her tonight

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portlock seagull said:

Heartedly agree. We were dreadful and just dismissing it as bad day at office, it's behind us now etc is alarmingly complacent. If you don't learn lessons from tonight then you're doomed to make them again. The management and team won't be happy, so why should the fans?

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Hyperion said:

There are way too many ppl on here getting right on the backs as soon as they state their opinion. We have f**ked up 3 promotion chances since being back in the championship and every one of those seasons has existed a little group of post snipers ready to take out anyone that dare doubt our credentials when in fact it turns out they were right, even if the way they put the point across was not too good.

This is a forum of opinions but as soon as anyone posts anything away from the glitter ball of absolute praise, a lot of you all jump on someone like a pride of lions.

The fact is, we have gotten away with more than our fair share of results this season and tonight could well be our season changer, it may not be but f**k anyone that doesn't have a "Disney world" view of our season eh!

Tonight was absolute sh*te, on balance I still think we will still go up automatically but it is not too far from reality that we could drop into the play offs by the end of the season and then it's back to the lottery. We ain't 15 points clear of 3rd and we certainly ain't entitled to 1st or 2nd based on ANY previous season stats thus far

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Claretnblue said:

Finchley I started a thread the other day about when u get promoted . I make a point of watching ur games when they're on because ur good to watch and I think u deserve it this year especially after last yr (Ramirez is a cheat) . It's not about tonight and I find myself hoping for you boys to get it wrapped up . U deserve it .

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Claretnblue said:

Finchley I started a thread the other day about when u get promoted . I make a point of watching ur games when they're on because ur good to watch and I think u deserve it this year especially after last yr (Ramirez is a cheat) . It's not about tonight and I find myself hoping for you boys to get it wrapped up . U deserve it .

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Finchley Seagull said:

A lot of them seem to enjoy us losing so they can come on here and post ridiculous stuff.

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Finchley Seagull said:

I never understand the attitude of people saying we have messed up three previous attempts to go up. Three seasons ago under Oscar Garcia we scraped into the play offs on the last game of the season, with a team that had a lot of injuries and did well to get into the top six, and then lost to a team well above us in the league. Last season we competed amazingly with two teams who had much bigger budgets than us and, despite a horrendous injury record over Christmas, were only goal difference away from promotion before awful injury luck again in the play offs.

So the only season you could argue we screwed up was under Poyet, and that was mainly his fault.

It is not a 'Disney world' view to say this is only one game. We'd won our last two league games before tonight and it is only our fourth loss of the season. We were poor, nobody is arguing with that, but if you can't see why people wouldn't get annoyed by the stupid post from the OP (look at me, over the top reaction) then there's no point discussing it.

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Finchley Seagull said:

I never understand the attitude of people saying we have messed up three previous attempts to go up. Three seasons ago under Oscar Garcia we scraped into the play offs on the last game of the season, with a team that had a lot of injuries and did well to get into the top six, and then lost to a team well above us in the league. Last season we competed amazingly with two teams who had much bigger budgets than us and, despite a horrendous injury record over Christmas, were only goal difference away from promotion before awful injury luck again in the play offs.

So the only season you could argue we screwed up was under Poyet, and that was mainly his fault.

It is not a 'Disney world' view to say this is only one game. We'd won our last two league games before tonight and it is only our fourth loss of the season. We were poor, nobody is arguing with that, but if you can't see why people wouldn't get annoyed by the stupid post from the OP (look at me, over the top reaction) then there's no point discussing it.

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portlock seagull said:

You see, and I don't think you're levelling that at me, but I do find that old chestnut equally challenging. Because there are genuine concerns, it's not just about tonight's awful performance but plenty of unconvincing displays that could see us finish bridesmaids again. We know how close it can be so feeling dispondent isn't way off the mark or ridiculous. It shows if anything a greater grip on reality and/ or experience. As the old saying goes, if you can keep your head when all around others don't...you probably haven't a clue what's really going on

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