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Nice to see the Environment Agency boss is finally back from his Carribean holiday







pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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If you wear a wooly jumper it doesn't make you a sheep , same if you wear a red rosette it doesn't make you Labour

Good for you,i like a man of principle.

Thank heaven you never once voted or promoted "Tory Lite" Labour in the last 20 years

you must be chuffed you held out all those years from ever backing them until now with your socialist messiah arrival
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Bloody rain, coming here, raining on our below sea level level towns and villages built next to rivers.

This......and near-biblical, once in over a hundred years-type rain at that. Building too much on flood plains is the issue, not spunking millions on 'defences'.

As for (Labour MP) Danczuk, according to the press today he's going to 'ride it out' and thinks this 'may have damaged his reputation but he's done a lot of good and can recover'. Pretty unlikely I'd think for someone who has put himself front and centre of the Rochdale child abuse campaigning.
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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This......and near-biblical, once in over a hundred years-type rain at that. Building too much on flood plains is the issue, not spunking millions on 'defences'.

As for (Labour MP) Danczuk, according to the press today he's going to 'ride it out' and thinks this 'may have damaged his reputation but he's done a lot of good and can recover'. Pretty unlikely I'd think for someone who has put himself front and centre of the Rochdale child abuse campaigning.

Good post.
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
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Only so much can flow through Lewes......Building higher banks etc will make things worse if/when these new defences are Breached...Believe we had about six inches of rain for 2000 floods...With changing weather patterns ten inches in 24 hours not unrealistic in next few years.
I believe it's including significant storage lagoons. Generally the EA are now requiring an improvement on the status quo before allowing a development.
 




Only so much can flow through Lewes......Building higher banks etc will make things worse if/when these new defences are Breached...Believe we had about six inches of rain for 2000 floods...With changing weather patterns ten inches in 24 hours not unrealistic in next few years.
It certainly pissed down with rain before the 2000 floods in Lewes. Most of the flooding, though, was caused by the exceptionally high tides flowing up the river from Newhaven at the same time as the rainwater was building up, unable to escape.
 


grummitts gloves

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Dec 30, 2008
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I read something yesterday that I found quite interesting if true. Apparently there are EU directives that dictate how much the UK can dredge rivers and streams for silt etc as it's considered as toxic waste! If the rivers, streams and ditches aren't being dredged properly then surely that must make the risk of flooding worse?
 


dazzer6666

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I read something yesterday that I found quite interesting if true. Apparently there are EU directives that dictate how much the UK can dredge rivers and streams for silt etc as it's considered as toxic waste! If the rivers, streams and ditches aren't being dredged properly then surely that must make the risk of flooding worse?

Definitely.....this was part of the problem in Somerset last year.
 




Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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I read something yesterday that I found quite interesting if true. Apparently there are EU directives that dictate how much the UK can dredge rivers and streams for silt etc as it's considered as toxic waste! If the rivers, streams and ditches aren't being dredged properly then surely that must make the risk of flooding worse?

We were required to accept the European Water Framework Directive (EWF) into UK law in 2000, actually on Labours watch.........15 years of build up in our rivers....quelle surprise.
 


Publius Ovidius

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Jul 5, 2003
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It certainly pissed down with rain before the 2000 floods in Lewes. Most of the flooding, though, was caused by the exceptionally high tides flowing up the river from Newhaven at the same time as the rainwater was building up, unable to escape.


Poseidon OUT!!!!!!
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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the Environment Agency in 1997 and when we adopted the European Water Framework Directive in 2000. No longer were the authorities charged with a duty to prevent flooding. Instead, the emphasis shifted, in an astonishing reversal of policy, to a primary obligation to achieve ‘good ecological status’ for our national rivers. This is defined as being as close as possible to ‘undisturbed natural conditions’.
‘Heavily modified waters’, which include rivers dredged or embanked to prevent flooding, cannot, by definition, ever satisfy the terms of the directive.
So, in order to comply with the obligations imposed on us by the EU we had to stop dredging and embanking and allow rivers to ‘re-connect with their floodplains’, as the currently fashionable jargon has it.
 




alfredmizen

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Mar 11, 2015
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Good for you,i like a man of principle.

Thank heaven you never once voted or promoted "Tory Lite" Labour in the last 20 years

you must be chuffed you held out all those years from ever backing them until now with your socialist messiah arrival
:lolol:
 


melias shoes

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Oct 14, 2010
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I read something yesterday that I found quite interesting if true. Apparently there are EU directives that dictate how much the UK can dredge rivers and streams for silt etc as it's considered as toxic waste! If the rivers, streams and ditches aren't being dredged properly then surely that must make the risk of flooding worse?

Another reason to leave the EU.:lol:
 


Nibble

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Jan 3, 2007
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He should have been back here immediately. Just one more demo that the tories are happy to show us they simply do not care.
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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...If the rivers, streams and ditches aren't being dredged properly then surely that must make the risk of flooding worse?

depends what flood risk you are concerned about. on levels and other flat areas, lack of dredging may mean water cant escape and cause a flood, or prolong a flood. but in other scenarios they make flooding worse, as water runs of the land quicker filling the rivers to capacity, only to burst their banks and flood downstream. this goes back to the question of where and what you want to defend from flooding, if you want to protect the towns you will probably have to flood land, if you want to protect land you have to build substantial barriers and walls in and around towns to protect them (and no more picturesque riverside walks).
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Just out of interest HT why didn't you feel the need to start another political thread about the Labour sleaze ball that is Simon Danczuk?

The three main reasons are

1) I had some partying to do yesterday and last night/this morning.
2) I had a game to go to today.
3) What has actually happened?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
Flood agency chief admits holiday in Barbados was mistake

"The chairman of the Environment Agency, Sir Philip Dilley, has said he wished he had returned earlier from a holiday in Barbados to help deal with the flooding in northern England which hit over 16,000 homes after record rainfall in recent weeks."

See, told you! Even he admits it. If you want sound and advance political reason you know where to come.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
He's resigned.

He said the role now required him to be available at short notice and this was "inappropriate in a part-time non-executive position".
 


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