Skaville
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It looked like a team vs a team of individuals. Our greatest asset last year was our togetherness. I can't help feeling the wantaways have damaged that.
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Brentford (home) player ratings
- Thread starter DJ NOBO
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It looked like a team vs a team of individuals. Our greatest asset last year was our togetherness. I can't help feeling the wantaways have damaged that.
WhoScored ratings:
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I think Bruno pushed up too far to let Hogan in for the first goal. Arguable, If Dunk should have done better for the second. MacLeod was simply a better player than the Albion equivalent in Norwood.
All told, our eagerness to get forward left us exposed, and Brentford were good enough to take advantage.
Meanwhile up front Glenn Murray was fouling too much again (4 times) but always look more likely to score than Hemed (the same was also true when Murray played with Barnes).
4-4-2 v 4-2-3-1 means creating and finishing chances before the outnumbered midfield loses possession and the other side finish their chances first. We did not lose possession that much. Just got punished for the first goal.
Duffy looks a good bet countering the larger striker, but Goldson may be a better bet against the likes of Hogan?
If fit, I would have started Lualua as I think he is a better player than Jamie Murphy and Jirí Skalák.
Very damp in East Lower (I think the front seats are overpriced).
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1084913/Live/England-Championship-2016-2017-Brighton-Brentford
I think Bruno pushed up too far to let Hogan in for the first goal. Arguable, If Dunk should have done better for the second. MacLeod was simply a better player than the Albion equivalent in Norwood.
All told, our eagerness to get forward left us exposed, and Brentford were good enough to take advantage.
Meanwhile up front Glenn Murray was fouling too much again (4 times) but always look more likely to score than Hemed (the same was also true when Murray played with Barnes).
4-4-2 v 4-2-3-1 means creating and finishing chances before the outnumbered midfield loses possession and the other side finish their chances first. We did not lose possession that much. Just got punished for the first goal.
Duffy looks a good bet countering the larger striker, but Goldson may be a better bet against the likes of Hogan?
If fit, I would have started Lualua as I think he is a better player than Jamie Murphy and Jirí Skalák.
Very damp in East Lower (I think the front seats are overpriced).
Withdeanseagull
Member
Stockdale - 5
Bruno - 4
Duffy - 4
Dunk - 7
Bong - 4.5
Knockaert - 6.5
Kayal - 5
Norwood - 4
Murphy - 5
Hemed - 5
Murray - 4
Very poor today, defensively and offensively. Hope to see at least three changes to the team against Huddersfeild.
Bruno - 4
Duffy - 4
Dunk - 7
Bong - 4.5
Knockaert - 6.5
Kayal - 5
Norwood - 4
Murphy - 5
Hemed - 5
Murray - 4
Very poor today, defensively and offensively. Hope to see at least three changes to the team against Huddersfeild.
Stockdale 4
Bruno 1 (hopeless in defence, slow & awful in attack)
Duffy 3 (second half looked county league)
Dunk 8 (would have lost 5 or 6 nil without him. Surrounded by shite)
Bong 1 (why? Will be dropped next game)
Norwood 4
Kayal 4 (knackered)
Murphy 7 (all his good work ruined by clowns he served)
Knockaert 7 (ditto)
Murray 3 (tried, but unlike his old confident best, nowt came off)
Hemed 1 (did he even play?)
Hughton 2 (played a 442 including 2 slow target men, against the norm thesedays of a dynamic 5 man midfield. Didn't whip off the awful Hemed and Bong at HT. Gave no touch line command when we were only 1-0 down and playing suicidal football at the back.)
Bruno 1 (hopeless in defence, slow & awful in attack)
Duffy 3 (second half looked county league)
Dunk 8 (would have lost 5 or 6 nil without him. Surrounded by shite)
Bong 1 (why? Will be dropped next game)
Norwood 4
Kayal 4 (knackered)
Murphy 7 (all his good work ruined by clowns he served)
Knockaert 7 (ditto)
Murray 3 (tried, but unlike his old confident best, nowt came off)
Hemed 1 (did he even play?)
Hughton 2 (played a 442 including 2 slow target men, against the norm thesedays of a dynamic 5 man midfield. Didn't whip off the awful Hemed and Bong at HT. Gave no touch line command when we were only 1-0 down and playing suicidal football at the back.)
I just couldn't be bothered with the rest but those for me were the performances worth commenting on.
It was all - players, weather, fans, transport - a bit meh.
All need to up our game massively Tuesday as that will be a real test.
Play like that and Huddersfield and their geggen pressing will rip us a new back door
Eggman
Well-known member
Stockdale 5
Bruno 4
Dunk 7
Duffy 6
Bong 4
Knoekaert 6
Kayal 6
Norwood 4
Murphy 4
Murray 4
Hemed 4
Manu 5
Skalak n/a
Stephens 5
Bruno 4
Dunk 7
Duffy 6
Bong 4
Knoekaert 6
Kayal 6
Norwood 4
Murphy 4
Murray 4
Hemed 4
Manu 5
Skalak n/a
Stephens 5
BensGrandad
New member
Withdeanseagull; Very poor today said:
Stockdale 6
Bruno 2
Duffy 4
Dunk 7
Bong 4
Knockaert 6
Norwood 4
Kayal 5
Murphy 5
Hemed 5
Murray 4
Ref was diabolical also, but we can't really hide behind bad decisions as we were poor. Have to say, I'm a little concerned about the high defensive line. We were carved up too often today and in the first half against Forest a few games back. Maybe you need an extra body or two sitting deep.
Bruno 2
Duffy 4
Dunk 7
Bong 4
Knockaert 6
Norwood 4
Kayal 5
Murphy 5
Hemed 5
Murray 4
Ref was diabolical also, but we can't really hide behind bad decisions as we were poor. Have to say, I'm a little concerned about the high defensive line. We were carved up too often today and in the first half against Forest a few games back. Maybe you need an extra body or two sitting deep.
Technohead
Active member
My thoughts aswell ..... being in the WSU admittedly sometimes your a bit too far away to be able to judge, but some of the officiating this afternoon really did appear to be bordering on the incompetent.
tigertim68
Well-known member
- Sep 3, 2012
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I thought he was utter shite from start to finish but his last involvement was the icing on the cake being beaten to the ball from 8 yards when he had a 6 yard head start. Needs replacing pronto and possibly Stockdale & Duffy plus we need Stephens back and Murray & Hemed aren't a partnership.
Bong 6.5? Dementia is a cruel illness
Goldstone_groover
Banned
Murray and Hemed were woeful. I thought I was at the Paralympics watching us today. Totally awful.
Seasider78
Well-known member
- Nov 14, 2004
- 5,939
Stockdale 4.
Staggering how often he is beaten at the front post
Bruno 2
One of worst performances I have seen from him in a Brighton shirt
Duffy 4
Looks shaky get Goldson back ASAP
Dunk 7
Needed more players to step up like him today
Bong 5
Almost every pass he makes finds a opposition player. Get the west Brom player in ASAP
Knockaert 6
Lively and kept trying but was not coming off for him today
Norwood 6
Tidy passing in the main but not as dynamic as Stephens who should come straight back in
Kayal 5
Overran by sheer numbers of Brentford midfielders today and looked off the pace. The cliche international hangover perhaps
Murphy 5
Chance to stake a claim for a starting position and offered nothing with little or no impact on the game
Hemed and Murray 3
Again Hemed talked pre match about the need to put a performance that gives him a run in the side.......Murray equally poor. Sad thing is they both know there is nobody to challenge their place
Hughton 4
Was clear from 20min in the extra man (no 15) in midfield was causing us problems and we were overran but did not make changes until 60min
Referee 2
Odd just very odd
Staggering how often he is beaten at the front post
Bruno 2
One of worst performances I have seen from him in a Brighton shirt
Duffy 4
Looks shaky get Goldson back ASAP
Dunk 7
Needed more players to step up like him today
Bong 5
Almost every pass he makes finds a opposition player. Get the west Brom player in ASAP
Knockaert 6
Lively and kept trying but was not coming off for him today
Norwood 6
Tidy passing in the main but not as dynamic as Stephens who should come straight back in
Kayal 5
Overran by sheer numbers of Brentford midfielders today and looked off the pace. The cliche international hangover perhaps
Murphy 5
Chance to stake a claim for a starting position and offered nothing with little or no impact on the game
Hemed and Murray 3
Again Hemed talked pre match about the need to put a performance that gives him a run in the side.......Murray equally poor. Sad thing is they both know there is nobody to challenge their place
Hughton 4
Was clear from 20min in the extra man (no 15) in midfield was causing us problems and we were overran but did not make changes until 60min
Referee 2
Odd just very odd
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
After a poor start to the season I thought Skalak looked useful when he came on and put in some better balls. Very disappointed in Murphy, who I thought justified a place in the starting line up - maybe he has no faith in Bong behind him? Dunk was immense. Stockdale looking cert overweight - how is that allowed to happen? Norwood threaded a few good balls through to the two snails up front but also gave it away in very vulnerable positions- something he seems to be doing every game. Duffy looked like a 2nd Division old fashioned centre back. The spat with Bruno went on for ages (but with their accents I doubt they understand each other anyway). We should go back to Hemed/Baldock upfront and try the new leftback
BensGrandad
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IMHO he played well and showed he is getting back to his best. It was noticeable that Pocognoli wasn't even in the squad so no question of him replacing Bong, in CH eyes. Our problem wasn't on the left but on the right of defence and in midfield.
One good slide tackle alone I thought he looked slow and bereft of confidence. He started well for us last season now it's not just the haircut which is reminiscent of Peter Smith he's starting to look as gangly and uncordinated as our former right back.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
Bong was not the problem yesterday. He had a better game than most of the others IMO.