Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Still don't know what your banging on about.
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An Apology to Gus Poyet
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Javeaseagull
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- Feb 22, 2014
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Thank you Alex. I think that explains every thing for those that are prepared to understand.
Javeaseagull
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- Feb 22, 2014
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You know very well I am not banging on about anything. Back under your bridge son.
West Ham and Newcastle have proven managers. Not ALWAYS totally successful but who is? SH has not got a good history of management and seems to actually be getting worse! Brighton are not going to do a Newcastle or West ham this year, in fact if they were, they'd have done it by now obviously!
No, we were great, we were unlucky, they didn't deserve to win, Gus got it bang on etc etc?... Yes, they took us apart. The second leg, we were very poor and Holloway adjusted his tactics from the first leg to beat us in the second. We were tired and Gus didn't adapt accordingly.
Just because this thread is a Gus love-in (which to a degree, I'm on board with), doesn't mean I should pop on the rose-tinted glasses for this one.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Nope not really
spring hall convert
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No one took anyone apart. Barnes scores that header, we likely hang on.
I shudder to think what you'd make of a game where we really did get taken apart. You know, really spanked, like West Ham away in our first season back in the Championship.
Look, I agree, there have been much worse performances. and yes if Barnes had scored, if we'd taken our chances in the first leg, if, if, if... The big if is if Gus had got it tactically right, which he didn't.
I'm probably overstating it a bit as "taken apart", but we were roundly beaten by Palace quite comfortably in the end. Taken apart? That was Derby last year.
spring hall convert
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Or the first half hour the other week!
He'll do a few jobs with moderate success and fade away into something else in 10 years or so like many others. He probably won't write a book because there would not be sufficient interest.
Or just any time we play Derby!
Not Andy Naylor
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That last one covers a range of possibilities, doesn't it?
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Look at sir Albion's post & note that when Poyet was in charge, we took 6 points off of them.
symyjym
Banned
I know this, but something as simple as threatening to leave if he didn't get his way could bring about a breakdown in the working relationship, or speaking to other employees about taking them with him to his next job would be considered dishonest and a gross misconduct. There is a wide spectrum gross misconducts and some are a lot worse than others. I mean when does insubordination become serious insubordination, or negligence become gross negligence?
Poyet said on live TV, that the gross misconduct sounded a lot worse than it was. Out of the list you gave me I doubt it was Theft, Malicious damage, Fighting/assaulting another person, Serious incapability through alcohol or illegal drugs, Endangering the safety of others by breaching Health and Safety Laws or Fraud are very serious accusations.
Monsieur Le Plonk
Lethargy in motion
Pre Mcclaren wasn't it..
For what it's worth, Poyet owes me an apology. If he had put the club before himself in that 2nd leg we might well be sitting in a polar opposite position to our friends up the road. Instead, what happened happened and the consequences of his actions (or inaction) are intrinsically linked to the utter mess we are in now and the huge disparities in success, financial resources and short term future.
Not Andy Naylor
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Isn't it about time this utter nonsense about the semi-final second leg was laid to rest once and for all? Poyet sent on an attacking substitute (Barnes) who nearly won it for us with a shot that Speroni somehow deflected onto the crossbar and a header that was cleared off the line. Wayne Bridge dozed off at the far post to let Zaha get in front of him for the decisive goal.
Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!
Primary data is fact
Gross misconduct is defined as behaviour, on the part of an employee, which is so bad that it destroys the employer/employee relationship, and merits instant dismissal without notice or pay in lieu of notice. Not a breakdown in the working relationship but an action or actions that destroys it.
However, instant dismissal is a very severe penalty, and if the employee goes to an Employment Tribunal, the employer would have to show that the offence was so wrong that instant dismissal was an appropriate sanction.
They would also have to be able to demonstrate that the decision:
1) Would be one that a reasonable employer would have made.
2) Was itself both fair and reasonable in the circumstances.