As will the opposition. Perhaps no bad thing.
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As will the opposition. Perhaps no bad thing.
BensGrandad
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Good to see Labour losing the votes on the queens speach. Perhaps the Euro may rally a little.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
May had to drop things today and fly back from Germany. Brokenshire had to tear away from important business in Belfast to vote too.
Absolutely spot on. We need lower rates for small companies (not lower than 20% though) and higher rates for those making bigger profits.
As it used to be. As makes sense. It's not complicated if you look at it impartially and without a political agenda or ideology.
Instead all we've had recently are new taxes for middle earners (the "simplification" of dividend taxation, yeah right), increased red tape / additional unnecessary reporting (we were promised the opposite) for small businesses, the utterly pointless and massively costly auto enrollment fiasco etc etc.
This is not the party of business, unless you're Mike Ashley et al. They talk the talk and then do the opposite but people still believe them because "Labour no good with money Tories good".
I'm not convinced by Corbyn but I'm even less convinced by the economic ineptitude of the current bunch of cretins we have in charge of things.
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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They didn't have much choice on the public sector pay cap. A defeat on that so early on would have put them in a terrible position and they all knew it.
What I will never understand is why they felt it was a good idea to cheer the result. They had the choice to go for the resigned 'it was not an easy decision - we know how hard it is but tough choices need to be made' look. But no. Cheers. Really NOT a good look that. Totally self inflicted damage.
I realise you're on a wind up but that's actually pretty offensive considering that all is not well at all for millions of people in this country and is only set to get a lot worse.
May I politely suggest then, that you 'do one' and buzz off to another country, where your wit and wisdom will be more appreciated.
They tell me LA-LA Land is nice and money trees grow there too.
For heaven's sake, LlcoolJ, keep your cool and your faux outrage under control.
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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Politely suggest what you want, I ain't going anywhere [emoji112] [emoji41] [emoji106]May I politely suggest then, that you 'do one' and buzz off to another country, where your wit and wisdom will be more appreciated.
They tell me LA-LA Land is nice and money trees grow there too.
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midnight_rendezvous
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The Upper Library
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- May 23, 2013
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May I politely suggest then, that you 'do one' and buzz off to another country, where your wit and wisdom will be more appreciated.
They tell me LA-LA Land is nice and money trees grow there too.
Having worked for the NHS for the last 22 years there have been many ups and downs but for the last 18 months I am experiencing first hand the real consequences of austerity. Rushed hospital discharges, services running at full limit, increasing staff shortages, staff at breaking point. I predict that the NHS , as we know it , has only a few years left. When it goes people will only then realise what we have lost.
The utter contempt that the current government seem to have for public services is something that soon will impact upon all of us.
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Honest question, from the outside. Do you feel this is totally finance related, is there any link to the theory of demand from people living longer and significantly increased population? There is no agenda, I am genuinely interested.
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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Mileoakman
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Its still finance related because the existing finance hasn't kept up with increased demands.
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For heaven's sake BLOCK F, I'm totally cool and far from outraged. Just pointing out that Titanic was being a dick.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
You've just explained why the NHS needs more money not less.
The Upper Library
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- May 23, 2013
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I think increasing demand is undoubtedly a factor. There is also a case to be made about all of our responsibilities to our health. My wife is a nurse in A& E and there is a lot of time taken up with alcohol related issues.
There is also increasing expectations of the public - all new medicines and treatments need to be researched etc which all costs .
But
All A&E DEPTS are running at max.
I work with adults with complex physical disabilities- budgets to help families with vital respite care have been slashed. Vital day services are closing - leaving families dangerously isolated.
Instead of providing the therapeutic care I was trained for I spend a lot of my time trying to source funding etc and picking up the pieces from rushed and unplanned hospital discharges.
My frustration is that NHS is constantly likened by politicians to a business - but this is just absurd. The NHS will always cost money but this is an investment for all of us. My very real fear is that the service is being deliberately run into the ground to set it up to be sold off piece by piece.
I am not suggesting simply throwing money at it (no mention of money trees please) but by pointing out the obvious that the NHS costs money is allowing the government to avoid the difficult questions we all have to face. I always hear about talk of not frightening big businesses by increasing taxes but I can't help but smile at the irony of my wife and her colleagues having to deal with any member of the super wealthy set who has had the misfortune of suffering a medical emergency- there are no private A& E depts..........yet
We are at a cross road where we have to decide what we want.
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Great response, thanks
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I asked a question. Has any Govt. kept up with the ever increasing demand?
I get the feeling that, whoever is in power, we might be at a 'straw that broke the camel's back stage. When the original NHS was set up, and brilliant as it was, this number could not have been foreseen.